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2024 NFL Draft - Round 1

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Growl Grand Master

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4 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Please don't take a Center at 33 ffs.  Trade down to take such a low value position.  I'm not saying Center isn't important.  I'm saying its not valuable on the draft board.

there’s a big demographic of people here who distill picks down to nothing more than “I don’t want to draft a bust”

but that’s not the strategy teams employ in the draft. Look at the contract aj brown just got. You’ve got to build an offense with skill players. But you’re not just going to buy an aj brown. You’ve almost always got to draft him.

servicable center play can be bought for next to nothing, and a good center isn’t adding any wins to your win total versus an average center.

the one thing they can’t do is go center at 33. Maximize value. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Please don't take a Center at 33 ffs.  Trade down to take such a low value position.  I'm not saying Center isn't important.  I'm saying its not valuable on the draft board.

Last thing we need is a rookie HC/OC, Bryce, and a rookie C. Another situation where you can't figure out who to blame so you just keep making stupid decisions afterwards 

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1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

Last thing we need is a rookie HC/OC, Bryce, and a rookie C. Another situation where you can't figure out who to blame so you just keep making stupid decisions afterwards 

Unfortunately the alternative is no-knees Corbett with Cade Mays as backup. That ain’t it.

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