Who are the day 3 prospects you want to see us target?

[CPF4LIFE]

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

They will. They have to have a camp arm.

They need a arm..... PERIOD.

 

[TD alt]

This is so damned frustrating. No password recovery, and the email and contact link at the bottom of the page is no good. My email says it's undeliverable. WTF?

[Billy Goat]

Tampa is BPA and fills a need. That would be a great value pick. I'd like one of Tampa, Franklin or Sanders. Please just take BPA with this pick and don't trade down.

Edited April 27, 2024 by Billy Goat

[StealthCat]

WR - Troy Franklin, Malik Washington, Jacob Cowing, Brendan Rice, Ainias Smith

TE - Tanner McLachlan, Theo Johnson, Dallin Holker, Cade Stover, Ja"Tavion Sanders

RB - Jaylin Wright, Isaac Guerendo 

C - Sedrick Van Pran, Tanor Bortolini, Hunter Nourzad, Beaux Limmer, Dylan McMahon, Matt Lee

G - Mason McCormick, Javion Cohen, Christian Mahogany

CB - TJ Tampa, Kalen King, Caelon Carson

S - Malik Mustapha, Jaden Hicks

LB - Jeremiah Trotter, Cedric Gray

DT - Khristian Boyd, Tyler Davis, Leonard Taylor

Edge - Austin Booker, Mohamed Komara, Cedric Johnson

[theinstrumental]

There's probably not a receiving tight end here who's an immediate upgrade over the guys we have, unfortunately. Just not a good draft for that position. Cade Stover's cool, but that is a converted linebacker, not a natural receiver. And yes, I know about JT Sanders, but he's not the caliber of athlete that our FO targets, or frankly the kind that usually ends up succeeding at tight end.

Athleticism concerns probably knock out TJ Tampa, as well, unless they see him converting to safety.

I'd love Malik Washington but it seems like one of Legette or Mingo can be a dynamic big slot. Honestly, I could talk myself into five or six receivers--it's a really, really deep class--but after spending pretty serious assets at every single starting position on offense except tight end, we can probably chill on offense. 

Jaden Hicks looks nice. Dorlus is a legit NFL defensive linemen and there are never enough of those. Any pass rusher with a pulse would be cool. Khyree Jackson is the kind of long corner that they might like, even though he will be a 25 year old rookie. It's the fourth round. Lots of solid players, nobody really exciting.

Edited April 27, 2024 by theinstrumental

[Bostonheelfish]

TJ Tampa all day with our first pick. That guy knows how to play CB. His very similar to Horn, and could start by mid season. He’s a steal in the 4th. Good grief. 

[SmittysLawnGuy]

Tampa or Franklin. Please God and baby Jesus!

[Jaxel]

Go look at the visit list, it's likely one of those.

[Growl]

take Brenden rice so we don’t have to watch him go to San Fran and have to listen to the niners media hype cycle 

[CPF4LIFE]

1 hour ago, theinstrumental said:

There's probably not a receiving tight end here who's an immediate upgrade over the guys we have, unfortunately. Just not a good draft for that position. Cade Stover's cool, but that is a converted linebacker, not a natural receiver. And yes, I know about JT Sanders, but he's not the caliber of athlete that our FO targets, or frankly the kind that usually ends up succeeding at tight end.

Athleticism concerns probably knock out TJ Tampa, as well, unless they see him converting to safety.

I'd love Malik Washington but it seems like one of Legette or Mingo can be a dynamic big slot. Honestly, I could talk myself into five or six receivers--it's a really, really deep class--but after spending pretty serious assets at every single starting position on offense except tight end, we can probably chill on offense. 

Jaden Hicks looks nice. Dorlus is a legit NFL defensive linemen and there are never enough of those. Any pass rusher with a pulse would be cool. Khyree Jackson is the kind of long corner that they might like, even though he will be a 25 year old rookie. It's the fourth round. Lots of solid players, nobody really exciting.

Considering all this Sed Vann prann seems like the easy pick but we will do something else. 

[MHS831]

THIS PERTAINS TO PICK 101 ONLY

If we don't draft CB we are in trouble in that area, however, there is a top TE and C sitting there.  Here is my breakdown of the CBs along with a brief mention of the other possible choices.

If I were GM, I would take Tampa, fwiw.

Nickel Corners 

 

My preference:  Jarvis Brownlee (One of my favorite day 3 options, Brownlee is tough and aggressive with strong tackling skills.  5’ 10”, a nickel who can play outside because. Aggressive in the first five yards area.  NFL Network calls him “good backup with potential to develop into a starter.”  4th round grade.

 

Highest rated:  Kris Abrams-Draine (a good tackling CB3–converted WR.  Had 6 Interceptions.  Good value–had a third round grade.  Versatile. Needs to work on tackling.   NFL Combine site calls him “average starter” and gives him 3rd-4th rd. grade )

 

Sleeper:  Myles Harden (SDSU-good tackling CB with short arms–projects to big nickel or even safety.  Has 4th round grade.  NFL Combine site calls him “good backup with potential to develop into starter.”)

 

Outside CBs

 

Highest rated and my preference:  TJ Tampa (for some reason, this large outside CB has been overlooked.  Maybe because the nickel CBs are in demand)  had a 2nd to 3rd round grade according to many NFL sites.  NFL Combine site rates him as an “average starter” in the NFL)

 

D.J. James (Rarely out of position in zone or man. Outside CB.  Struggles with larger receivers and not great in run support–teams will run at him, in fact.  Lance Zerlien gives him 3rd rd. grade.  NFL Combine site calls him “will eventually be a plus starter”)  

 

Nehemiah Pritchett  (6’ outside CB who ran 4.36, he is probably a CB with day 2 value in some schemes.  Not a strong tackler and slow hip rotation could necessitate S help over the top.  Rated “good backup with potential to develop into a starter.” 4th round grade.

 

Caelen Carson (Kind of a mixed bag. Best in press man coverage. Outside CB.  Good tackler but takes bad angles.  Injury history 2021 and 2022.  Limited experience.  NFL Network site gives him a 3rd round grade with the “ability to be average starter” rating.)

 

Cam Hart  (6’3” outside CB who held Marvin Harrison in check.  Can play TEs and tall WRs well.  Not great in run support at this point. 4th round grade according to NFL Network Combine site.    Rated “good backup with potential to develop into a starter.”

 

Khyree Jackson (6’ 4” outside  CB who is a good tackler and wins contested catches. Only started 14 games in college. 4th round grade.  Rated “good backup with potential to develop into a starter.” Might make a better S.)

 

Decamerion Richardson (Probably a Safety.  Ran 4.34 but has below average coverage skills. NFL Network calls him a “backup with special teams ability”)

 

MHS Recommendation:  Draft Tampa at #101.  If we are looking for a Nickel, draft Brownlee

 

Tight End

 

Ja’Tavion Sanders  Texas He can get up the field from in-line or from the slot, beating man coverage at his route stems or separating quickly from turns. He is able to dig in and win combat catches underneath and has proven to be highly effective running the seam or catching intermediate throws into zone pockets. Teams looking for a tight end with a more complete game might pass on him, but his potential to open up the passing game and become a highly productive pass-catcher should be hard to pass on.  Rated “eventually a plus starter” by NFL Network and predicted to go rounds 2-3.

Center

 

Sedrick Van Pran-Granger would be an ideal pick to groom for 1 year to prepare for a starting role in 2025.  3-4 rd grade, Lance Zerlien calls him a solid day-2 pick.  Rated to “become an average starter”.  This would be a smart pick for the Panthers in round 4.

 

Second Wide Receiver

 

 

Here, I think we need a slot WR, and I would take a look at Rice or Washington. 

 

Edited April 27, 2024 by MHS831

[MHS831]

This might blow a mind or two, but since we are USC at Columbia North Campus,

Spencer Rattler  QB

(Seriously, the Raiders should try to move up to our spot and grab him)

[MHS831]

To me, the best picks for the future?  Van Pran Granger (C, Ga) or Tampa (CB, Iowa St).  The best pick to surround Bryce (which seems to be the focus (Sanders TE).  TJ Tampa could start for us soon, but I doubt he can play nickel until then--so we might need another CB later.  I still think TAMPA should be the pick, considering our depth at Outside CB.

I like Abrams Draine and Brownlee at Nickel.  One could be there Rd 5.

[MHS831]

8 hours ago, App Panther said:

I'd love Sanders but Canales doesn't use a TE much, so won't be upset if he's not the pick.

What is the knock on TJ Tampa? 

He is a bit slow (remember Josh Norman ran a 4.68 or so) so he is only a fit for a zone scheme.  Tampa ran a 4.59 at his pro day--did not run at combine.

Edited April 27, 2024 by MHS831