How short a leash will Young be on?

[CRA]

55 minutes ago, mrBdawg said:

I think the coach who ran an archaic 90s offense that mostly consisted of 4 players running a 10 yard curl killed himself. Bryce didn’t play well but he was a rookie who had the leagues worst receiving corp and a bottom 3 offensive line. He did not kill any coach. That poo is laughable.

Canales wasn’t exactly running something new age last year.  Offense probably more built for Jake Delhomme than Bryce Young. 

it wasn’t a very good or efficient O….that was largely kept alive by Baker chucking it downfield.  He lead the league in pass attempts 20+ yards in air downfield. 

Leggette is 100% a match.  

Bryce? Nothing IMO about his offense last year screams Bryce Young

[Gapanthersfan]

The first TC practice will show A LOT.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Gapanthersfan said:

The first TC practice will show A LOT.

I bet TMJ balls out..........again

[Ornias]

6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I bet TMJ balls out..........again

I see no reason to waste reps on him. 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Ornias said:

I see no reason to waste reps on him. 

[SCO96]

15 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think the coach who ran an archaic 90s offense that mostly consisted of 4 players running a 10 yard curl killed himself. Bryce didn’t play well but he was a rookie who had the leagues worst receiving corp and a bottom 3 offensive line. He did not kill any coach. That poo is laughable.

While I agree with you to a point, I think the routes were simplified to deal with Bryce's physical limitations. I think we would have seen much more creativity in the offense if we had a big armed QB behind center like Stroud, Richardson, or Levis.

If you take time to watch that video on page 6 of this thread, you'll see that Bryce was terrible on the deep pass last year. 

 

Teams quickly figured out that he wasn't able to throw deep with consistency and not a threat to throw outside the numbers unless it was a short curl or a bubble screen. You really only had to drop 10 yards and take the area between the numbers. Even if we had receivers last season that could get better separation, the opposing team still would have been able to defend our passing plays because it's easy to sit on the routes.

Edited April 29, 2024 by SCO96

[Gapanthersfan]

5 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

While I agree with you to a point, I think the routes were simplified to deal with Bryce's physical limitations. I think we would have seen much more creativity in the offense if we had a big armed QB behind center like Stroud, Richardson, or Levis.

If you take time to watch that video on page 6 of this thread, you'll see that Bryce was terrible on the deep pass last year. 

 

Teams quickly figured out that he wasn't able to throw deep with consistency and not a threat to throw outside the numbers unless it was a short curl or a bubble screen. You really only had to drop 10 yards and take the area between the numbers. Even if we had receivers last season that could get better separation, the opposing team still would have been able to defend our passing plays because it's easy to sit on the routes.

This is something the Bryce camp just can’t realize. Opposing teams are more than happy to give up a couple bigger plays a game by leaving deep shots open because they know the odds are so slim of a successful completion. 

The formula was pretty simple, even for the worst defenses. Bro just had nothing over about 20 yards. The season opener in ATL showed the entire league the blueprint. 

[CRA]

9 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

While I agree with you to a point, I think the routes were simplified to deal with Bryce's physical limitations. I think we would have seen much more creativity in the offense if we had a big armed QB behind center like Stroud, Richardson, or Levis.

If you take time to watch that video on page 6 of this thread, you'll see that Bryce was terrible on the deep pass last year. 

 

Teams quickly figured out that he wasn't able to throw deep with consistency and not a threat to throw outside the numbers unless it was a short curl or a bubble screen. You really only had to drop 10 yards and take the area between the numbers. Even if we had receivers last season that could get better separation, the opposing team still would have been able to defend our passing plays because it's easy to sit on the routes.

Good thing we paired with Canales….who needed his QB to lead the NFL in 20+ air yard attempts last year 

[mrcompletely11]

33 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

While I agree with you to a point, I think the routes were simplified to deal with Bryce's physical limitations. I think we would have seen much more creativity in the offense if we had a big armed QB behind center like Stroud, Richardson, or Levis.

If you take time to watch that video on page 6 of this thread, you'll see that Bryce was terrible on the deep pass last year. 

 

Teams quickly figured out that he wasn't able to throw deep with consistency and not a threat to throw outside the numbers unless it was a short curl or a bubble screen. You really only had to drop 10 yards and take the area between the numbers. Even if we had receivers last season that could get better separation, the opposing team still would have been able to defend our passing plays because it's easy to sit on the routes.

they got to preseason specifically the jets scrimmage and were like "oh fug, oh fug" and it didnt really get any better from there

[ForJimmy]

2 hours ago, CRA said:

Good thing we paired with Canales….who needed his QB to lead the NFL in 20+ air yard attempts last year 

Baker is a great deep ball thrower though. Wouldn’t that be designing an offense to his strengths? Also if your offense has Mike Evans you better be throwing it deep often…

[pantherclaw]

Semantics.  

[Jackie Lee]

2 hours ago, SCO96 said:

While I agree with you to a point, I think the routes were simplified to deal with Bryce's physical limitations. I think we would have seen much more creativity in the offense if we had a big armed QB behind center like Stroud, Richardson, or Levis.

If you take time to watch that video on page 6 of this thread, you'll see that Bryce was terrible on the deep pass last year. 

 

Teams quickly figured out that he wasn't able to throw deep with consistency and not a threat to throw outside the numbers unless it was a short curl or a bubble screen. You really only had to drop 10 yards and take the area between the numbers. Even if we had receivers last season that could get better separation, the opposing team still would have been able to defend our passing plays because it's easy to sit on the routes.

Ouch that guys scorches him lol. 

[strato]

3 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

The first TC practice will show A LOT.

About what? the QB or the offense? For the QB, last year it was the first padded practices where negative reviews, or reports of struggles, happened. He is okay playing catch in shorts.

[CRA]

47 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Baker is a great deep ball thrower though. Wouldn’t that be designing an offense to his strengths? Also if your offense has Mike Evans you better be throwing it deep often…

I mean all we got is what we got on him.  And you can trace it back to Seattle.  Wilson is a downfield thrower.  Always a heavy/top air yard QB going downfield. That’s the Canales background and resume to date.  

I mean, I would think if the goal was to do something new catering to Bryce vs doing what you do….you would’t draft Leggette with your first pick.  Basically an Evans/DK deep ball guy and draft some route runner like Ladd to get the ball out quick.