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Caleb Williams is struggling big time in OTAs

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For anyone who cares… Sounds like Bryce last season but worse.  

 

The Athletic’s Jon Greenberg reports Caleb Williams and the Bears offense has struggled during OTAs. 
Bears beat writers have reported plenty of Williams’ passes hitting the ground, difficulties getting set for plays, and constant pressure on the rookie from the Chicago defense. Greenberg said Williams was “under pressure while his receivers (which didn’t include Rome Odunze or Keenan Allen) tried to get open. There were a few just-missed interceptions. Sometimes, Williams couldn’t even get passes off as the secondary used its space advantage in the red zone to shut down receivers. We saw a lot of screen passes, many of which turned into scores. Occasionally, the offense struggled to line up or get a play off.” Hopefully a full summer of practices against a tough Bears defense will prepare Williams — the No. 1 overall pick in the 2024 draft — for live action competition starting with the Titans in Week 1.
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Wasn’t Bryce praised as some vet type super player during all the camp work?   

Cam Newton struggled…until real football had to be played.  Then smashed the record books out the gate.  Ron couldn’t find the work to gift him the job over Clausen.  Think a run vs the Bengals is what Ron used as the reasoning (I mean it was good).  But Cam struggled until that week 1 game. 

You never know….

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4 minutes ago, CRA said:

Wasn’t Bryce praised as some vet type super player during all the camp work?   

Cam Newton struggled…until real football had to be played.  Then smashed the record books out the gate.  Ron couldn’t find the work to gift him the job offer Clausen.  Think a run vs the Bengals is what Ron used as the reasoning (I mean it was good).  But Cam struggled until that week 1 game. 

You never know….

one of Cam's first passes did some damage to smitty's hand...separated his middle and ring finger on one hand. that's about all i remember from him. 

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3 minutes ago, CRA said:

Wasn’t Bryce praised as some vet type super player during all the camp work?   

Cam Newton struggled…until real football had to be played.  Then smashed the record books out the gate.  Ron couldn’t find the work to gift him the job offer Clausen.  Think a run vs the Bengals is what Ron used as the reasoning (I mean it was good).  But Cam struggled until that week 1 game. 

You never know….

This, OTA's at this point are a meaningless sign. Now if it's the same thing in pre-season, I think you'll have a good idea of how things will start out. Not to say there aren't outliers, like Cam Newton, but disorganization and sloppy play seems like it carries over with most rookies.

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Well we wouldn’t have had to draft him specifically. 

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

one of Cam's first passes did some damage to smitty's hand...separated his middle and ring finger on one hand. that's about all i remember from him. 

Probably a 10 yard route and 70mph pass.

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7 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

This, OTA's at this point are a meaningless sign. Now if it's the same thing in pre-season, I think you'll have a good idea of how things will start out. Not to say there aren't outliers, like Cam Newton, but disorganization and sloppy play seems like it carries over with most rookies.

Ron actually did have sort of hidden O that didn’t really come out until the regular season.   It was such a college heavy look.  Basically what Frank pretended he had up his sleeve but didn’t .

defenses were facing something unique when Cam rolled out into the league.  With Bryce, it was just Frank standard junk with a QB that wasn’t able to challenge folks with the full field 

 

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13 minutes ago, CRA said:

Wasn’t Bryce praised as some vet type super player during all the camp work?   

Cam Newton struggled…until real football had to be played.  Then smashed the record books out the gate.  Ron couldn’t find the work to gift him the job over Clausen.  Think a run vs the Bengals is what Ron used as the reasoning (I mean it was good).  But Cam struggled until that week 1 game. 

You never know….

Cam had an awful awful rookie preseason. 

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Which is an outlier because preseason usually dictates the regular season? Right? 

Got to think Cam being so unique to defend in real games was a heavy factor.  League just had never dealt with what that O presented.   They had seen Vick mimics that run away from people.   Not dudes that could run over any of the 11 defenders.   It took a year of film on Cam.  That zone read struggled to open up year 2 once they adjusted on it 

 

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Which is an outlier because preseason usually dictates the regular season? Right? 

In how a player plays or the entire team?  Because last year was pretty spot on. 

Cams preseason games were brutal if I remember correctly.  But without me looking, and I dont think there are stats for preseason games that far back, cam didnt run much in those games.  Come regular season his mobility opened things up

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In how a player plays or the entire team?  Because last year was pretty spot on. 

Cams preseason games were brutal if I remember correctly.  But without me looking, and I dont think there are stats for preseason games that far back, cam didnt run much in those games.  Come regular season his mobility opened things up

Yeah, once the actual games the power Cam run plays started .  The designed run game.   Cam had to be defended different than preseason which was trying to grow his pass game paired with a neutered rush threat 

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