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Jay Gruden on Bryce Young: He looks small and plays small

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24 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

tepper and company destroyed….yes fuging destroyed…the franchise for this guy

The Rhule Fitts ad Tepp destroyed it in the years leading up to this trade. While the Bryce trade hurts and was certainly expensive it’s not what made the team blow for more than half of a friggin decade.  Those doofs mismanaged the roster in every way possible.  

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2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Imagine walking in a room with Stroud/AR/Levis/Bryce and leaving that room thinking the small midget is the right guy to lead your franchise.

 

Tepper is a fuggin joke!

I am sorry to whoever was a fan of Bryce Young for the NFL...  

They lost their minds. Supposed to be professionals. I can't accept that certain people didn't see this.

I don't know for sure who is to blame for leading the organization into that decision, but I hope they know. 

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24 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Imagine walking in a room with Stroud/AR/Levis/Bryce and leaving that room thinking the small midget is the right guy to lead your franchise.

 

Tepper is a fuggin joke!

Bryce probably reminded Tepper of his favorite golf caddie, which is why he drafted him number one.

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1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

We are only past week 1, and the dude is getting absolutely eviscerated by the media.  He's not gonna last the entire season unless he improves.  No way he gets trotted out there for all 17 games at this rate.

I said this earlier this year...once a player loses that rookie label. There is NO saving them from that point.  The shield is gone and they will get picked apart. 

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8 minutes ago, PappyMay said:

I’m intrigued by Ewers. He lost his best 4 weapons in  Worthy, Mitchell, Sanders, and Brooks to the draft. I’m intrigued to see he does with this next batch. Isiah Bond will be a mid round pick but I haven’t heard of any of the other weapons before. 

If we're replacing Bryce next year, it needs to be with a gap starter FA, not a first round rookie

This team has WAY too many holes right now, even if we are successful in drafting a rookie QB (which is less likely in a class that isn't supposed to be great to begin with), by the time we build a decent team around them, we'll need to sign them to a massive extension and lose out on the best SB opportunity.

We'd be putting yet another rookie QB in a position where they can't succeed.

Need to stop looking for the quick and immediate fix and build things up the right way, we need more quality pieces on this roster.  If we end up at #1, you trade back, compile assets, and start doing things the right way for a change.

It's not going to be fun during the early years of it all, but the team has tried to just skip that step of a rebuild and every year they keep trying to skip it, it just delays success even further down the line.  We still haven't even started that process as we did the opposite with the trade up to get Bryce, we gave away our assets for the worst QB in the league and we're still down what is looking like the #33 pick in the draft next year.

Tepper didn't start his finance business and immediately start making billions.  He had to build it up from the bottom, it took him years to do it, this is no difference except he thinks he can skip those early years for some stupid reason.

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3 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

If we're replacing Bryce next year, it needs to be with a gap starter FA, not a first round rookie

This team has WAY too many holes right now, even if we are successful in drafting a rookie QB (which is less likely in a class that isn't supposed to be great to begin with), by the time we build a decent team around them, we'll need to sign them to a massive extension and lose out on the best SB opportunity.

We'd be putting yet another rookie QB in a position where they can't succeed.

Need to stop looking for the quick and immediate fix and build things up the right way, we need more quality pieces on this roster.  If we end up at #1, you trade back, compile assets, and start doing things the right way for a change.

It's not going to be fun during the early years of it all, but the team has tried to just skip that step of a rebuild and every year they keep trying to skip it, it just delays success even further down the line.  We still haven't even started that process as we did the opposite with the trade up to get Bryce, we gave away our assets for the worst QB in the league and we're still down what is looking like the #33 pick in the draft next year.

Tepper didn't start his finance business and immediately start making billions.  He had to build it up from the bottom, it took him years to do it, this is no difference except he thinks he can skip those early years for some stupid reason.

I’m all for trading down and grabbing a starter but Canales may want his pick. Williams , Pearce, Johnson, or Hunter please sign me up for any of the 4 

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12 minutes ago, PappyMay said:

I’m all for trading down and grabbing a starter but Canales may want his pick. Williams , Pearce, Johnson, or Hunter please sign me up for any of the 4 

Trade down to collect picks but stay inside the Top 10 to be able to grab Tetairoa McMillan

My literal dream scenario, he's going to be a STUD in this league, I'd be ordering that authentic jersey so fast

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