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I've never been in favor of Jadeveon Clowney. Him and Burns are similar players, neither can wreck a game by themselves. I've never been overly impressed with either one because I don't think either one of them have that dog in them, overrated. Clowney has been in the league for 10 years and has never had double digit sacks, at least Burns did it once in 6 years. We need great talent evaluators and coaches for us to get better. I haven't given up on Canales yet. 

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I mean, Burns is gone and Clowney isn't in the long term plans, particularly as our main pass rusher. He's better than nothing however. 

We have many holes to fill, and I'm sure that the pass rush is out too priority on defense and could turn into our top priority overall depending upon how things shake out.

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Clowney is one of the bigger draft disappointments. Not an outright bust but definitely a disappointment and has just managed to have a long NFL career basically on just sheer freak talent. That guy hit a Michigan RB really hard one time and has been living off of that highlight play ever since. It's pretty unreal.

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49 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Clowney is one of the bigger draft disappointments. Not an outright bust but definitely a disappointment and has just managed to have a long NFL career basically on just sheer freak talent. That guy hit a Michigan RB really hard one time and has been living off of that highlight play ever since. It's pretty unreal.

Lot of parallels between Clowney and Bryce, Chief among them being that folks with eyes and a lick of common sense struggled to understand where the hype was coming from. Clowney just rode the wave.

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Just now, KSpan said:

Lot of parallels between Clowney and Bryce, Chief among them being that folks with eyes and a lick of common sense struggles to understand where the hype was coming from. Clowney just rode the wave.

I think they're kinda opposites. With Clowney, people got obsessed with the potential based on physical talent. With Bryce people were willing to completely overlook all of the glaring red flags on the physical talent side because they were convinced he was some type of football wizkid savant.

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If you already have a few premier pass rushers Clowney is a decent addition on the cheap. But to expect him to anchor a pass rush was always a fantasy. We were desperate. We knew it no matter how excited we might have been about the signing at the time.

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He's mostly been a role player / complementary pass rusher his whole career. 

Now that he's on a team that sucks and doesn't have anyone else to take attention away from him? It shouldn't really suprise anyone that this was the result.

If anything you should be more upset about that D.J. Wonnum signing. He's had a similar sort of role as a complementary pass rusher playing on the opposite side of Danielle Hunter. But he hasn't even seen the field with us in 6 games into a 17 game season. That's inexcusable. 

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6 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

He's mostly been a role player / complementary pass rusher his whole career. 

Now that he's on a team that sucks and doesn't have anyone else to take attention away from him? It shouldn't really suprise anyone that this was the result.

If anything you should be more upset about that D.J. Wonnum signing. He's had a similar sort of role as a complementary pass rusher playing on the opposite side of Danielle Hunter. But he hasn't even seen the field with us in 6 games into a 17 game season. That's inexcusable. 

Yeah, well Wonnum is at 6.5 mill a year, so the expectation is less

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