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Dianna Russian: several teams interested in Bryce Young

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23 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

I'm not saying he hasn't been awful, but he was a highly regarded QB prospect not that long ago and there are ALWAYS teams who will take a shot on a player like that, even if they haven't lived up to their draft stock. Especially when the narrative is that his failure was 100% on the organization and team around him.

See: Sam Darnold.

Yeah he is still young enough that a team can look back at their scouting of him and wonder if they can bring out the potential they saw. I still think its real funny that people here are not willing to admit that Bryce Young was going to be drafted in the top 5 picks of the draft last year. 

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30 minutes ago, rayzor said:

whatever we do, we don't need to put him back in there. that would be the worst thing. let him play and then they watch and have second thoughts. 

let them just use their imagination.

I half thought this whole year would be trying to avoid being rationalized into a third year, by somewhat improved play.

As bad, or mediocre, as I thought it would go it went worse. Off a cliff.

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2 hours ago, PanthersGTI said:

Yeah he is still young enough that a team can look back at their scouting of him and wonder if they can bring out the potential they saw. I still think its real funny that people here are not willing to admit that Bryce Young was going to be drafted in the top 5 picks of the draft last year. 

I don't think anyone argues that point, but there is a difference between swinging and missing on a draft pick and swinging and missing like Carolina has and losing all of the other capital/talent in addition to the pick. The issue is that they spent all of that to trade up for such a physically limited player; even if the Texans had Bryce #1, as one example, they weren't willing to pay anything for the privilege of ensuring they could draft him over Stroud.

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8 minutes ago, KSpan said:

I don't think anyone argues that point, but there is a difference between swinging and missing on a draft pick and swinging and missing like Carolina has and losing all of the other capital/talent in addition to the pick. The issue is that they spent all of that to trade up for such a physically limited player; even if the Texans had Bryce #1, as one example, they weren't willing to pay anything for the privilege of ensuring they could draft him over Stroud.

They had another trades in the works with Zona to move up to 3 and couldn’t give up the capital to do both.  So they were fine with either quarterback and would have taken BY had we taken stroud. 

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2 hours ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

I'm not saying he hasn't been awful, but he was a highly regarded QB prospect not that long ago and there are ALWAYS teams who will take a shot on a player like that, even if they haven't lived up to their draft stock. Especially when the narrative is that his failure was 100% on the organization and team around him.

See: Sam Darnold.

Well unfortunately the panthers can screw themselves out of a trade.

darnold has the requisite physical ability. Not only does Bryce not that, he’s shown he has none of the skills that we’re supposed to overcome it. He’s not a developmental project because there’s nothing to develop. 

if you’re just saying “well someone always gucks up: look at the panthers” then I am saying Bryce’s shittiness transcends blind faith and hope and optimism.  

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2 hours ago, KSpan said:

I don't think anyone argues that point, but there is a difference between swinging and missing on a draft pick and swinging and missing like Carolina has and losing all of the other capital/talent in addition to the pick. The issue is that they spent all of that to trade up for such a physically limited player; even if the Texans had Bryce #1, as one example, they weren't willing to pay anything for the privilege of ensuring they could draft him over Stroud.

Not talking about how they aquired him. Im talking about why a team may still want him. 

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1 minute ago, PanthersGTI said:

Not talking about how they aquired him. Im talking about why a team may still want him. 

You were since you referenced Top 5 last year. My point was that sure, some other QB-starved team probably would have taken a shot, but Carolina was the only one willing to spend additional capital to do it and now there is a season of atrocious film backing up whatever reservations other teams had. If they can get him cheap then someone will kick the tires but folks were not impressed enough to move up to secure him. Not much value to be had. 

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