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33rd Team has a mock out today

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3 hours ago, Xtreme said:

Still hoping for Sanders. This QB class is weak and Sanders is the only one that looks legit. If we don't fix the QB problem, it doesn't matter how many playmakers we end up drafting and signing because we're still going to suck. Sanders in the 1st, BPA/defense for the remaining of the draft. 

We have enough Sanders on our team....

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With a top 10 pick I'm saying QB, pass rusher, WR, CB, or trade down. Those are the only position groups that command that type of draft investment other than OT and we don't have need there. If there's a guy you project as an elite Ed Reed/Earl Thomas type of over the top sideline to sideline safety that qualifies too but honestly the top 10 worthy safety prospects only come around once every few years or so.

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7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I wouldn't necessarily be looking at Evero's scheme projecting defenders to the Panthers in the off-season. Just saying. When you have one of the bottom units in the league and you're a holdover from the last staff your future is probably very much undetermined.

I think it's more he'll want to leave rather than we'll want to get rid of him. 

He's an excellent DC. 

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2 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Trevin Wallace is a special teamer. He got knocked out yesterday by Daniel jones. I like him, but he’s limited. 

Jewell is about to turn 30, but he’s a smart player and i think he can play multiple positions 

Jewell is a fine player, Wallace is whatever, neither should have an impact on who the panthers draft for the front 7. 

Wallace was in on the game-sealing fumble - he shot the gap and slowed the RB down so Robinson could make the tackle. He also isn't an edge rusher, which is what I gather Walker is. 

You're talking about D.J. Johnson, who Jones did indeed knock out. 

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9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

With a top 10 pick I'm saying QB, pass rusher, WR, CB, or trade down. Those are the only position groups that command that type of draft investment other than OT and we don't have need there. If there's a guy you project as an elite Ed Reed/Earl Thomas type of over the top sideline to sideline safety that qualifies too but honestly the top 10 worthy safety prospects only come around once every few years or so.

Genuinely, BPA.

We've neglected to do that for so long. The last two times we did that we got Brown and Horn, who are clearly two of our best players and stand out from their peers on this team. 

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8 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I think it's more he'll want to leave rather than we'll want to get rid of him. 

He's an excellent DC. 

I think he's pretty average and if you're under contract it doesn't matter if you want to leave or not unless someone is offering you a HC job. He'll basically get out of your unit what the roster is. If you have an elite unit he'll probably get you an elite D, average unit average D, bottom of the barrel unit bottom of the barrel D. He is as a coordinator what a game manager QB is IMO. You'll be what you are, he's not going to significantly lift you up or drag you down.

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18 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

With a top 10 pick I'm saying QB, pass rusher, WR, CB, or trade down. Those are the only position groups that command that type of draft investment other than OT and we don't have need there. If there's a guy you project as an elite Ed Reed/Earl Thomas type of over the top sideline to sideline safety that qualifies too but honestly the top 10 worthy safety prospects only come around once every few years or so.

I pretty much agree with you except for on one position missing from the list. A great LB (middle or OLB) can really change a defense. If there's a Luke Kuechly, Patrick Willis, Ray Lewis or Jon Beason is in the top 10 we need to grab them if the best pass rushing DE is off the board. If a Micah Parson or Derek Brooks is sitting there, we need to consider grabbing them too. Players like that have to be accounted for every week. We don't have a LB on our roster like that.  Elite LB's make everyone better. However, as you pointed out about the safety position they have to be better than good, they need to be great/exceptional.

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16 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think he's pretty average and if you're under contract it doesn't matter if you want to leave or not unless someone is offering you a HC job. He'll basically get out of your unit what the roster is. If you have an elite unit he'll probably get you an elite D, average unit average D, bottom of the barrel unit bottom of the barrel D. He is as a coordinator what a game manager QB is IMO. You'll be what you are, he's not going to significantly lift you up or drag you down.

Isn't this the last year of his contract?

I think he squeezes all the juice out of what you've got - but no, he's not an aggressive DC. If that's what you're looking for the he won't be your cup of tea. 

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1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

Wallace was in on the game-sealing fumble - he shot the gap and slowed the RB down so Robinson could make the tackle. He also isn't an edge rusher, which is what I gather Walker is. 

You're talking about D.J. Johnson, who Jones did indeed knock out. 

Oh poo you’re right thanks 

our 28 year old project linebacker 

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