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2 minutes ago, staffcurtis said:

I’m hoping I was wrong all along about Bryce. 

that throw he made on the run to Thielen in the end zone that resulted in PI, my jaws dropped. I had never see him do anything like that before. the ball hit Thielen in the hands. whatever it is Canales is doing it's seemingly working in developing Bryce. 

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Panthers played a great game today. Including bryce....All deserve their props. I think now it just comes down to consistency. Especially with Bryce, can he keep improving with the pressure of not being guaranteed anything? This is a big reason why I have never had a problem with how Canales has approached this situation and I honestly think he deserves more props for it. He has gotten the best out of Bryce and the whole team the last couple weeks off his methods. He has definitely separated himself from Reich. Keep pushing Bryce so he doesn't get comfortable and go back to watching Netflix and playing basketball. And We will see where we are at later on. 

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The good: might have been Youngs best game and his stats should have been better, sanders was good, thielen was the solid vet he is

 

The bad; still lost, the d still sucks at the basics a la tackling and coverage which cost us, redzone o needs improvement 

 

The ugly: sanders injury- was scary and I hope the dude is ok

Overall  a lot to build on, a lot of positives, took it to the 2 time Champs and scared the sh!t out of them

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