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Bryce contingency plan?

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As the adage goes "the defining of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again". We have had 2 years of Bryce & Andy as plan A & B. Time to change one or both. Salary cap & draft assets may restrict changing plan A, but plan B can be changed much more easily. IMO, They need to add a plan C in the form of drafting a QB in the 2nd or 3rd, with the intent to let him sit & learn & get into NFL shape for a year or at least 8-10 games.

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4 hours ago, Panthers Rhule said:

This list also says that drafting a QB in the first round and playing him early doesn't work anymore. 6 out of 10 were 1st round picks with the last few years. Jones is the oldest one but he started his first season too I think. 

So, probably drafting another 1 this season doesn't change anything for us for several seasons. No matter who is. 

Yes getting any qb at all thats good is a crap shoot.  We could get lucky get a stroud or a nix.  But what the other take away is rarely do any of the qbs get better.  Well excpt for darnold and mayfield 

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I'm coming to the point of believing he deserves another year to try and show he can be a starter. Not quite there yet, but leaning in that direction.

Still, I'd prefer to have a capable veteran backup.

The problem is that if a qb is capable he usually starting. Backups are backups for a reason. 

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44 minutes ago, fanpanther said:

Yes getting any qb at all thats good is a crap shoot.  We could get lucky get a stroud or a nix.  But what the other take away is rarely do any of the qbs get better.  Well excpt for darnold and mayfield 

stroud is on that list too but he des have the best chance out of any them imo

 

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On 11/30/2024 at 3:20 PM, Happy Panther said:

We are in a multi-year rebuild. Let Bryce play out and grab a CB this year in the draft.

I'm sorry but how is this not obvious to anyone? This is exactly what everyone should be thinking. How the heck does Reddit have way more people that know what's going on compared to here? I hate Reddit. Anyone who says Bryce is not the quarterback (if healthy) during a few year rebuild must get out or go to my re-education football camp to learn what football is. 2 months at least. The football IQ has completely plummeted. 

While I'm gone Happy Panther is in charge because he is by far the smartest here so far and refuse to read anymore comments from these parrots. Thank you Happy Panther for having what we call at camp..."Tepper Telligence". Anyone saying new quarterback...I'll see you tomorrow morning at 7:00am. Tepper out...

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