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Hot Take: This team will never get over the hump, until we move on from Bryce.

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41 minutes ago, scpanther22 said:

People keep bringing up Mayfield and Darnold but then leave out both of them have #1 WR to throw too lol

Evans was out for several weeks with a hammy.  During that stretch Baker averaged about 70%, 225, and 2 TDs per game.   I mean does Tampa have better talent on offense than Carolina then? 

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1 minute ago, Aussie Tank said:

Or like I've stated that we will finally know for sure. 

But you won't that's the point of QB purgatory, dude. 

There will always be another reason why it didn't work out or you didn't see enough and then it's another year and another year until the band-aid gets ripped off. I know you and the Bryce crowd want him to work because it will put the franchise back on track but hoping doesn't make him better.

I said it earlier, Franchise QBs don't have the fanbase split on whether they are the guy or not.

You don't have this kind of debate when the guy is the guy.

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People love to say this and I don’t think most fans are crowning Bryce as the franchise quarterback yet, but what is the alternative right now? We are picking 7th in this draft, the two first round QB’s will be gone well before then. What free agent do you think will perform better than Bryce has these last two months? 
 

Our roster is the worst in the league. Lets please spend one offseason addressing that instead of pretending another new QB will get us winning again

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7 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

But you won't that's the point of QB purgatory, dude. 

There will always be another reason why it didn't work out or you didn't see enough and then it's another year and another year until the band-aid gets ripped off. I know you and the Bryce crowd want him to work because it will put the franchise back on track but hoping doesn't make him better.

I said it earlier, Franchise QBs don't have the fanbase split on whether they are the guy or not.

You don't have this kind of debate when the guy is the guy.

You lot would have moved off Josh Allen early so we know how your franchise QB takes go 

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27 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

People love to say this and I don’t think most fans are crowning Bryce as the franchise quarterback yet, but what is the alternative right now? We are picking 7th in this draft, the two first round QB’s will be gone well before then. What free agent do you think will perform better than Bryce has these last two months? 
 

Our roster is the worst in the league. Lets please spend one offseason addressing that instead of pretending another new QB will get us winning again

The alternative is you understand Bryce isn't the future AND that this team isn't a QB away from contending anyways.

You trade Bryce for whatever the best offer is for him this offseason then go and sign someone like Jameis or Wentz this offseason to be the starter next year.  Both are going to end up costing your team wins, it's they're not starters anymore, but they both have big arms and aren't afraid to sling the rock.

It will help our young offensive weapons grow as they'll get tons of targets from all sorts of routes, but yes, they're likely to cause us to lose a lot of games, which is fine as it's a QB loaded draft next year, where we then draft a QB with our 1st rounder.

Fans won't like it next year while we're losing, but the reality of the situation is that it's the fastest way to get us back on the right track towards having a contending team again.  If we luck out and get the #1 pick and get Manning, then we could have a really bright future too.

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23 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Yeah we could afford Wentz or Lock for not much at all. Kid needs real competition.

There's literally no way Young would beat out Wentz/Lock/anyone without you saying the competition was rigged from the start. I don't even need to wait to know that response. And before you say "oh but you think Young is the greatest ever" no, I don't, read my posts sometime to get my opinion on Young. I'm just not as much of a hater when a guy is playing like he's played the second half of the year (better than 95% of this awful roster).

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LMAO... that some of you all still to this day do not actually realize that it is going to be almost next to impossible to surround Bryce Young with an all pro caliber player on offense at every position & still have any resources or money left over to invest into the defense.

 

 

still LMAO to keep from crying   ...just saying 

 

 

 

 

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Young: top 5 rated qb the past 2 weeks

People in this thread: young is the worst starting qb in the league! Sign Flacco, wentz, (insert random qb who hasn’t been good in 5 years). They are all better than young will ever be!!!! He is the reason we are losing!

Defense: Gives up almost 400 yards in the first half last week and not too far off from being statistically the worst defense in PPG of all time.

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