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Adam "Can't Stop The" Thielen Appreciation Thread

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8 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Imagine how bad this offense would be without him.

We saw 

it was bad

and that was with an actual nfl qb playing 

dudes going to need a new 2 year deal. Hes scheduled to make 8.4 mil next season. If im his agent im getting more. what are the panthers going to do? Throw to lagette?

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/13071/adam-thielen

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8 hours ago, AggieLean said:

Still a #2 in this league. Folks sell him short, calling him a 3 or 4. For selfish reasons, if I’m Carolina I don’t let him go. We need to build up the receiver room, and AT will help in building that 

problem for me is he is a #2 that has to hog up so much of the slot work.   If he was a #2 and dominated reps on the outside I would love to have him stay.  We need more YAC potential in the slot. 

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30 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

I don’t know why people say he’s slow. He’s clearly still got some juice. 

 

He's slow off the line. He's slow off the break. He's slow after the catch. But he's a real WR, so he's fast when the ball is in the air. All good pass catchers have it. They get a burst that allows them to separate when the ball is coming their way. Doesn't make sense. Just is. Probably more mental than physical. 

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2 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

He's slow off the line. He's slow off the break. He's slow after the catch. But he's a real WR, so he's fast when the ball is in the air. All good pass catchers have it. They get a burst that allows them to separate when the ball is coming their way. Doesn't make sense. Just is. Probably more mental than physical. 

he is a savy small TE w/ great hands.  While I get his pros on a team that lacks any real consistency......AT dominating the slot lowers the ceiling of a Bryce Young O in terms of explosive play potential.  Because Bryce Young is going to need explosive plays to come from the slot and backfield.  

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11 minutes ago, CRA said:

he is a savy small TE w/ great hands.  While I get his pros on a team that lacks any real consistency......AT dominating the slot lowers the ceiling of a Bryce Young O in terms of explosive play potential.  Because Bryce Young is going to need explosive plays to come from the slot and backfield.  

Yeah thielen in the slot is what’s limiting Bryce’s explosive potential. 

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8 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Yeah thielen in the slot is what’s limiting Bryce’s explosive potential. 

I mean, Bryce doesn't offer it.  It has to come from those around him.   From the day we drafted him I have held the same stance, you got to have an explosive slot WR and an explosive pass catcher in the the backfield to make this Bryce thing work.  

AT is basically a reliable small TE dominating the slot reps.  And while that means AT has impressive numbers to an extent.....the O is not going to be threatening given how Bryce plays.   We probably need a new OC if Bryce is your guy because at heart everything Canales has been around has been dependent on a QB that will throw the vertical balls.  Which shapes the O and how the D plays it.  That will never be Bryce. 

We have the 31st ranked O and the 31st ranked pass O.   That's the Young/AT Panthers.  But let's triple down on being the most non-threatening pass attack in the NFL.

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7 minutes ago, RumHam said:

i'm sorry, he's a #1, and if you think otherwise it's because you're biased.

AT is not a #1 in the NFL.  I mean, if he is....your pass attack is going to be one of the least threatening in the NFL.   

AT on a well built team is a savy roleplayer you take advantage of on passing downs. 

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5 minutes ago, CRA said:

 

We have the 31st ranked O and the 31st ranked pass O.   That's the Young/AT Panthers.  But let's triple down on being the most non-threatening pass attack in the NFL.

I don’t disagree with what you’re saying. I just think it’s bizarre to look at this disaster and focus on the one part of the passing game that functions. 

the main problem with the Bryce offense isn’t “explosive potential” from the slot or whatever. 

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7 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

I don’t disagree with what you’re saying. I just think it’s bizarre to look at this disaster and focus on the one part of the passing game that functions. 

the main problem with the Bryce offense isn’t “explosive potential” from the slot or whatever. 

I think the main problem remains the Panthers have failed with their big picture.  If you are going to play a QB like Bryce Young (which isn't my preference).....you have to build a team and have a vision that works for it.  Which means receiving RB, slot WR......have a different priority than in some other offenses.  Because you need a lot of explosive plays to morph out of the small ball he plays.  He also needs a scheme/playcalling that fits it. 

Our talent doesn't match the QB nor does the playcaller IMO.  That's been my stance basically since Bryce arrived.   

 

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