BREAKING: Panthers making defensive staff changes

[PanthersATL]

4 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Bring in Kuechly as a LB coach, grooming him to be DC in a few years

And if Luke doesn't want to move from the radio booth to the coaching sidelines, at least give Luke a 2nd job of giving regular lessons on how to watch/interpret film

[BrianS]

Honestly, I cannot believe that we didn't even have a CONVERSATION with Robert Saleh before retaining Evero.  The guy took the worst defense in the league and turned them into a borderline top 10, sometimes top 5 defense.  They were on course do be the same again this year before he was fired.

But nah, we good.

[KSpan]

1 minute ago, BrianS said:

Honestly, I cannot believe that we didn't even have a CONVERSATION with Robert Saleh before retaining Evero.  The guy took the worst defense in the league and turned them into a borderline top 10, sometimes top 5 defense.  They were on course do be the same again this year before he was fired.

But nah, we good.

Who says they didn't? We have absolutely no idea what all goes on behind the scenes, be it the coaching staff, free agents, or anything else. No reason to automatically assume that anything the public didn't hear about never happened... in fact, I'd say that a sign of a good staff and FO is the ability to operate without everyone knowing every detail. 

[CarolinaLivin]

3 minutes ago, BrianS said:

Honestly, I cannot believe that we didn't even have a CONVERSATION with Robert Saleh before retaining Evero.  The guy took the worst defense in the league and turned them into a borderline top 10, sometimes top 5 defense.  They were on course do be the same again this year before he was fired.

But nah, we good.

There was no way Saleh comes here. 49ers most likely landing spot, but too many better DC positions out there. Why would he come to Carolina over going back to 49ers or even going to Bengals? I just never saw it as a realistic possibility. 

[Jon Snow]

8 minutes ago, BrianS said:

Honestly, I cannot believe that we didn't even have a CONVERSATION with Robert Saleh before retaining Evero.  The guy took the worst defense in the league and turned them into a borderline top 10, sometimes top 5 defense.  They were on course do be the same again this year before he was fired.

But nah, we good.

Maybe they did and he said nah, I'm good.

[BrianS]

2 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Who says they didn't? We have absolutely no idea what all goes on behind the scenes, be it the coaching staff, free agents, or anything else. No reason to automatically assume that anything the public didn't hear about never happened... in fact, I'd say that a sign of a good staff and FO is the ability to operate without everyone knowing every detail. 

How about the fact that Saleh is a Packers coach and we can't talk to him due to the Packers still being in the playoffs?

We absolutely did not consider our options . . . because we still aren't sure what all the options are given staff turnover around the league.

I have no personal beef with Evero, but damn.  The guy had exactly one year of DC experience before he came here.  That one year of experience in Denver was taking over a defense that was previously 3rd in the league and they became . . . 12th.  He has no coordinator level experience turning around a defense or building one from the ground up.

I hope it works out, but I suspect we're going to be sitting here next offseason with the same issues.

[LinvilleGorge]

Good. Honestly not a big fan of retaining Evero but at minimum there had to be significant changed under him.

[TheSpecialJuan]

https://x.com/mike_e_kaye/status/1877368782420848774?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

[Jon Snow]

5 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://x.com/mike_e_kaye/status/1877368782420848774?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

Didn't Richard coach here before or am I thinking of someone else?

[KSpan]

5 hours ago, BrianS said:

How about the fact that Saleh is a Packers coach and we can't talk to him due to the Packers still being in the playoffs?

We absolutely did not consider our options . . . because we still aren't sure what all the options are given staff turnover around the league.

I have no personal beef with Evero, but damn.  The guy had exactly one year of DC experience before he came here.  That one year of experience in Denver was taking over a defense that was previously 3rd in the league and they became . . . 12th.  He has no coordinator level experience turning around a defense or building one from the ground up.

I hope it works out, but I suspect we're going to be sitting here next offseason with the same issues.

As if him being currently employed actually prevents anything... come on now. That's exactly why there wouldn't be anything publicly known, but we aren't naive enough to think that the conversations like that don't take place. They absolutely do, and quite often, in one way or another. It's the same thing with fans declaring "Why didn't we talk to So-and-So player?!?" when they sign with someone else; in many cases preliminary conversations took place, it was just clear it wasn't going to work and there was no upside to either party disclosing that. Exact same thing that happens in every business and industry in the world.

With respect to Evero, I've never been a big fan and don't like the kind of scheme he runs (which is not exclusive to him or Carolina these days). I do believe/am willing to give the benefit of the doubt that if Canales and Morgan (or any other staff in this situation) thought a better option was available and viable at this time, they explored it before this particular news about Evero staying came out. 

[Basbear]

3 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Didn't Richard coach here before or am I thinking of someone else?

I've been after Kris Richard since the rhule hire, Im a big fan.

 

He's up there with wilks as DB coaches go.