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Jackie Lee

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Don't forget though on Jakes best statistical season Smitty went down week one leaving a rookie Keary Colbert as a starting WR with Mangum at TE and Nick Goings the starting RB.

That was Delhommes best year as a QB and a distributor of the ball. I think Jake was the right QB at the right time. But he was also a flawed player. Once he couldn’t rely on his arm to force throws he got exposed in other areas of his game. Hate to say it but he was holding the team back in 2008. 

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Just now, OneBadCat said:

That was Delhommes best year as a QB and a distributor of the ball. I think Jake was the right QB at the right time. But he was also a flawed player. Once he couldn’t rely on his arm to force throws he got exposed in other areas of his game. Hate to say it but he was holding the team back in 2008. 

Yeah, not paying Jake as perfect by any means I just think a lot of people act like his success was all because of Smitty. The Tommy John surgery ruined him. It seemed like it effected his accuracy and confidence more than his arm strength IMO.

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11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Don't forget though on Jakes best statistical season Smitty went down week one leaving a rookie Keary Colbert as a starting WR with Mangum at TE and Nick Goings the starting RB.

Well Moose also had 1400/16 and we did have Ricky Proehl still then. I would say that is still a better group than what the Ravens have currently. It's a pretty underwhelming group without Flowers and Andrews kind of being a ghost of himself.

I'll take 2007 Moose and Co over these guys.

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Well Moose also had 1400/16 and we did have Ricky Proehl still then. I would say that is still a better group than what the Ravens have currently. It's a pretty underwhelming group without Flowers and Andrews kind of being a ghost of himself.

I'll take 2007 Moose and Co over these guys.

Moose absolutely had a career year but Proehl was 36 at that point and pretty limited. I'd take the Ravens skill position crew over what Jake was working with that year for sure.

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Moose absolutely had a career year but Proehl was 36 at that point and pretty limited. I'd take the Ravens skill position crew over what Jake was working with that year for sure.

I will take our WR's and TE's. The RB group isn't even an argument. The Ravens backup RB would have been a starter for us then, to say nothing of the greatest RB of this generation.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, not paying Jake as perfect by any means I just think a lot of people act like his success was all because of Smitty. The Tommy John surgery ruined him. It seemed like it effected his accuracy and confidence more than his arm strength IMO.

I think he wasn’t reading the field well and Smitty spoiled him a bit with his insane talent. There was a time where Jake had a special arm but I think it masked a lot of flaws in his game. Matt Moore was the better QB in 07/08. I was pissed that Fox didn’t pull Jake at half time against ARZ.

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