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Jackie Lee

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LinvilleGorge Grand Master

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Whew. Bad time for KC to completely blow a coverage though.

That effort from Coleman on 3rd down was dog poo. You gotta fight through that DB and force the refs to make the call or swallow their whistle. He just gave up on the ball when he saw the DB had position on him.

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1 minute ago, WhoKnows said:

 

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From where the OL’s blue stripe is and Allen having the ball in his left arm (can see that from the other side), he looks like he got to the line. Also, Kincaid caught the ball and fell on the line. Looked like he almost got there or did get there but look at the blue line of scrimmage. Had they not spotted Kincaid way shorter, Allen makes it easily.

Huge play that the refs gave to KC by spotting it short and then going to replay. Basically means there has to be indisputable evidence to overturn. Two straight poor spots and they get shafted IMHO. If KC wins, it’ll be because of those two spots both clearly benefiting KC.

I already said that I personally thought he did get to the line, but only BARELY.

But that's what that is, my opinion, there wasn't a single piece of clear video evidence that he got there, so you have to stick with the call on the field.

In the end, if he got there, it was by literally only a couple of inches and neither ref was ever going to actually be able tell exactly where the ball was, if this isn't the Chiefs in this type of game, nobody takes issue with the call and subsequent replay, it's what happens in plays THAT close.

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8 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Neither ref could actually see the ball, we literally couldn't even see the ball on the camera angle down the line that is like 10 feet in the air, because there were too many bodies in the way.

Do you really think the 5'8" ref standing on the field is going to be able to see that ball with all those 6'5" linemen surrounding the play like that?!?!?!

Want to argue for chips in the ball all you want, but there was nothing different in that play than any other spotting of the ball in every single NFL game, it wasn't the refs giving anything to KC, you just sound crazy saying things like that.

The refs not actually seeing a play but making a call in favor of one team is the very definition of bias.

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1 minute ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

The refs not actually seeing a play but making a call in favor of one team is the very definition of bias.

or, you know, they made the call they thought they saw on the field

Just because it went one way, doesn't mean there was bias involved, not everything is some big conspiracy theory

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4 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I already said that I personally thought he did get to the line, but only BARELY.

But that's what that is, my opinion, there wasn't a single piece of clear video evidence that he got there, so you have to stick with the call on the field.

In the end, if he got there, it was by literally only a couple of inches and neither ref was ever going to actually be able tell exactly where the ball was, if this isn't the Chiefs in this type of game, nobody takes issue with the call and subsequent replay, it's what happens in plays THAT close.

The problem with this is one ref spotted that Allen made it. Why did that ref’s spot not overrule the other’s? 

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