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NFL grades on combine participants

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9 hours ago, Ornias said:

Proves that there a few really good prospects and then a bunch of guys all ranked as basic starters. We have to hit on that 1st pick. 

They really need to hit on at least half of those picks. They may not be world beaters but they need contributors everywhere. 

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For fun comparisons look up some past years to see how accurate/inaccurate this is - just type the players name and combine into the search bar and click the NFL website:

Bryce Young - 6.82 vs Stroud - 6.70

Jayden Daniels - 6.73, Caleb Williams - 6.72, Bo Nix - 6.39

Puka Nacua - 5.8

Clearly not incredibly reliable - Have fun!

 

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25 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Draft Tyler Warren if he's there. Go defensive line in round 2. Warren is the next Gronk and could unlock the entire offense. Letting Ian Thomas walk pretty much confirms we will be drafting a tight end at some point. 

I don't think cutting our 3rd string TE confirms a draft pick 

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On 2/25/2025 at 10:59 AM, Stingray3030 said:

I don't think cutting our 3rd string TE confirms a draft pick 

So we have two tight ends, one who is a middling receiver and less than middling blocker, and the other who is scout team quality. 

We are drafting a tight end. Warren is a luxury pick, but you dig holes for your team by drafting for need in the first round. You go BPA and that is going to be Warren, by a mile. 

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24 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

So we have two tight ends, one who is a middling receiver and less than middling blocker, and the other who is scout team quality. 

We are drafting a tight end. Warren is a luxury pick, but you dig holes for your team by drafting for need in the first round. You go BPA and that is going to be Warren, by a mile. 

So we have Tremble, JT Sanders, and the Thomas - Franks is the 4th but mainly just for Special teams.  Sanders is a TE - on paper, on the roster, physically, and on the field.  If you are trying to claim because he is a good receiver and not a great blocker he is not a TE then you have not watched very much football, like at all.  Cause that is how a ton of TE's come into the league.  Literally the #1, most common area for improvement for the TE group every single year - especially the top 5 TE's.

And for the 1 millionth time, for the people in the back - drafting BPA is absolutely not a rule that anyone follows.  Not a single team.  They always factor in multiple things, BPA being one of them but not the most important almost ever.  It is an evaluation of need, personal evaluation, pick position/who drafts before your next pick, trade offers, free agents possible.  They don't follow it for good reason.

Perfect example - Bo Nix.  He was not rated anywhere near #12 by just about anyone - including the broncos.  But they drafted him because they NEEDED a QB, liked him, and had no 2nd RD pick.  They outright said that.  Do you think they regret the pick?  They drafted 100% for need and pick position.

Example #2 - Bijan.  Atlanta drafted BPA.  He is amazing, had a great 2 years so far.  They were 7-10 for 2 straight years prior.  And the 2 years after they have been 7-10 & 8-9.  Do you think they made the right decision?  By the way they also spent the #4 overall pick on Pitts, a Generational TE, and he/they suck.  I'd imagine Falcon fans would not agree with your BPA theory since they missed out on Chase, Waddle, Parsons, Horn, PSII, DeVonta Smith - all positions of need in 2021.

BPA is A criteria, but not THE criteria.

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19 minutes ago, Stingray3030 said:

So we have Tremble, JT Sanders, and the Thomas - Franks is the 4th but mainly just for Special teams.  Sanders is a TE - on paper, on the roster, physically, and on the field.  If you are trying to claim because he is a good receiver and not a great blocker he is not a TE then you have not watched very much football, like at all.  Cause that is how a ton of TE's come into the league.  Literally the #1, most common area for improvement for the TE group every single year - especially the top 5 TE's.

The only TEs from that last year's group under contract for next season are Ja'Tavion Sanders and Jordan Matthews. James Mitchell and Dominique Dafney are under reserve contracts.

The team announced that they're going to let Tommy Tremble test free agency. Feleipe Franks is an unrestricted free agent. Ian Thomas is a likely cap casualty.

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29 minutes ago, Icege said:

The only TEs from that last year's group under contract for next season are Ja'Tavion Sanders and Jordan Matthews. James Mitchell and Dominique Dafney are under reserve contracts.

The team announced that they're going to let Tommy Tremble test free agency. Feleipe Franks is an unrestricted free agent. Ian Thomas is a likely cap casualty.

None of that officially means they are guaranteed gone from the team for 2025 - I was obviously using last year's team since that is the last known roster.

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