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What's Matt Moore's ceiling?

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I think we have a Derick Anderson and Brady Quin situation right now. Also throw Hunter Cantwell in the mix also. I think its Moores Job to lose and we will see what he is made of come game one with the Giants. The Panthers seem to always start slow so if he can lead us to a win it would be a big plus.

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it's tough to set a ceiling until a player is about halfway through their career. he could turn out to be a tom brady like player, not much expeted of him but turned out to be a superstar or he could turn out to be a jake delhomme, good enough to manage a decent career and end up with a nice highlight reel by the end of his career, or a derek anderson, a flash in the pan. he hasn't started full season yet, it's too early to tell.

he isn't a peyton manning, mad skill and talent and everybody expected him to be a star in the league.

tony romo on the other hand, i think you can now set a ceiling for him and i expect he will reach it this season. very capable, top 10 QB and can win you a superbowl. he's no brady, manning, brees and never will be.

moore, could be a romo, or just another average joe.

clausen could be another peyton manning, or a total bust.... we need to see him start a few years before we can tell.

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It's obvious this question can't be answered until he has a lengthy season under his belt. The problem is that the offense he will be working with is not the best (sans Double Trouble). So I don't expect him to be lights out (if he actually IS that). That said, if our D can't hold anybody the first half of the season, and we don't win...look for Moore to be put on the bench. I don't envy his situation at ALL. It's going to be very stressful for the kid.

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I was listening to NFL talk radio today an they were talking about Alex smiths development and I started thinking about how matt Moore doesn't get a lot of respect and yet he has never really played a "terrible" game. He has always been pretty steady in his starts. I know the playbook has been scaled back at times but he ultimately still has to make the throws regardless how simple the plays may be.

So my question is what is everyones view on how good he CAN be...maybe not how good WILL he be. We are simply talking about potential...do you view him as that Tom Brady/Peyton manning franchise QB that we will follow no matter what? Or do you see him as a guy who will always be looking over his shoulder bc he is just average? Or somewhere in between?

Moore looked really terrible at times in the Patriots game last season. The good thing is that his main problem in that game had more to do with timing, footwork ect, and not talent. Moore is a play action pass QB. He will look good when the running game is working and LBs are biting on the run, and safeties are cheating up. Not so good when the running game is stuffed and he has to carry the team.

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matt should do well and be a very solid, mistake free QB but i think clausen could be elite.

That's sort of how I see it as well.

This is no slight to Moore, but he does benefit from being teammates with two of the league's best backs and one of the league's best receivers. I'd like to see him put the team on his shoulders and win in the absence of a running game before I deem him an elite franchise quarterback.

That being said, football is a team sport. He probably won't have to do a whole lot in this offense, and that's okay. I think he'll be enough -- it's just a matter of if Clausen can later bring more to the table.

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It's obvious this question can't be answered until he has a lengthy season under his belt. The problem is that the offense he will be working with is not the best (sans Double Trouble). So I don't expect him to be lights out (if he actually IS that). That said, if our D can't hold anybody the first half of the season, and we don't win...look for Moore to be put on the bench. I don't envy his situation at ALL. It's going to be very stressful for the kid.

I think he's got one of the most ideal situations you can expect a quarterback to have. Great running game, one great receiver and a few others with potential, and a promising young, fast defense. Not to mention he's had three years to prepare himself.

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i think hes a 25 touchdown 10 int. I picture him having a matt hasselback career with him goin to playoffs many times and goin to super bowl onece or twice. Hes a good QB has mobility but doesn't rely on it. Has good medium and long arm strength as well as accurate from those distances. In every game he played he had a pass that was atleast like 25 yards so i think he favors medium passes with the occasional deep pass or atleast the offensive scheme he was in tailored to that pass. He is also super accurate on the run and threads needles.His decision making could be a lot better on few occasions in his career he was baited into coverage that looked like soft spot in zone. While not all of these passes were picked off it still concerns me a little.Over all i like him, especially how cool collective he is. He seems to have full control of of now i think of steve smith aswell. We can see both him and the other QBs in preseason and hopefully get a better look.

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I think he's got one of the most ideal situations you can expect a quarterback to have. Great running game, one great receiver and a few others with potential, and a promising young, fast defense. Not to mention he's had three years to prepare himself.

This is exactly why expectations should be very high and not so-so.

The bottom line is that with the right QB the Panthers should have a top 10 or top 15 passing attack. If they don't, he is simply not the right QB.

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I don't really like saying certain players have "ceilings." This isn't basketball, every year players drafted in late rounds or not even drafted show up and make an impact for their team.

I think(based on what I've heard/seen) that he is driven to get better and that's all that really matters.

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Moore looked really terrible at times in the Patriots game last season. The good thing is that his main problem in that game had more to do with timing, footwork ect, and not talent. Moore is a play action pass QB. He will look good when the running game is working and LBs are biting on the run, and safeties are cheating up. Not so good when the running game is stuffed and he has to carry the team.

One of the things Belicheck does best is take away specific weapons and make you beat them in another way. So they will shut down the running game and make us beat them through the air. Besides the passing game stepping up, we need some better playcalling and less predictability.

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