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Panthers Prospect Visits/Meetings (Final Update-4/22)


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46 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Just watched Sanders at his Buffalo showcase (pro day to mortals).  He had a dollar sign on the back of his shirt.  I am old school, and that would bother me if I were a GM--he is destined to be a mediocre QB on many boards, so why would you make a team think $$$ is your motivation?  He is already a millionaire.  His dad is a millionaire. We get it, but maybe a football on your shirt would have been more appropriate.  I am sure someone will say "But that is his symbol or trademark."  I don't know that it is, but if so, he chose it.  His towel on the field had a $ too--in college, when most of your team is not making bank.  I just smell entitlement.  Talk me out of it.

Was his shoelaces tied differently? hair crazy looking? Shorts looked funny?? What did you think of those things too?

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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

Just watched Sanders at his Buffalo showcase (pro day to mortals).  He had a dollar sign on the back of his shirt.  I am old school, and that would bother me if I were a GM--he is destined to be a mediocre QB on many boards, so why would you make a team think $$$ is your motivation?  He is already a millionaire.  His dad is a millionaire. We get it, but maybe a football on your shirt would have been more appropriate.  I am sure someone will say "But that is his symbol or trademark."  I don't know that it is, but if so, he chose it.  His towel on the field had a $ too--in college, when most of your team is not making bank.  I just smell entitlement.  Talk me out of it.

 

Welcome to the new sports world, muh fend... Branding. I think Lamar just sued dalejr over something like this. Im too old of soul for much more of it as well. I already left NBA, MLB, nascar, college.. I just had too much invested with the Panthers to leave, but they are the last sport/team I care to follow. Guys on the bench are even "branding" of creating a "community". It's like a fuging onlyfans but for guys.......

 

I can only only hold off the gods soooo long. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Was his shoelaces tied differently? hair crazy looking? Shorts looked funny?? What did you think of those things too?

not the same thing.  And it is "Were" his shoelaces tied differently?  I did not ask for anyone's approval--never do.  Crazy hair is not about money.  Funny Shorts are not about money-since you asked.  Dollar signs are about money.

Here is what I should have explained because I assumed everyone already understands this:  Somebody is going to reach for Sanders.  Some team, their fans, and their GM are looking for a QB to get them to the next level.  He shows up with Diamond Necklaces, talking about how he is mentally superior to everyone else, wearing a dollar sign shirt--if that is what your looking for, he is your guy. 

On your next job interview, tie your shoelaces differently, make your hair look crazy, and wear funny looking shorts--and a shirt with a huge $ sign on the back.  Good luck.

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3 hours ago, Basbear said:

 

Welcome to the new sports world, muh fend... Branding. I think Lamar just sued dalejr over something like this. Im too old of soul for much more of it as well. I already left NBA, MLB, nascar, college.. I just had too much invested with the Panthers to leave, but they are the last sport/team I care to follow. Guys on the bench are even "branding" of creating a "community". It's like a fuging onlyfans but for guys.......

 

I can only only hold off the gods soooo long. 

 

 

I said I am old school.  With ya. 

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10 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Sanders has the physical ability to make the plays in the NFL.  I just feel like he's gonna get killed if he takes sacks like he did in college.  You've got to get the ball out in the NFL.  Even if it's just throwing it out of bounds.

Milroe is just way too raw.  I really doubt he has success in the NFL outside of a short run in a meme offense.

Ward will be a turnover machine.

Sanders biggest flaws are his physical limitations. Not a great athlete, not great arm talent.

I think it's all about the system he ends up in and the protection he gets. Could be Drew Brees, could be a poor man's Geno(not as physically gifted as Geno, IMO).

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5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Sanders biggest flaws are his physical limitations. Not a great athlete, not great arm talent.

I think it's all about the system he ends up in and the protection he gets. Could be Drew Brees, could be a poor man's Geno(not as physically gifted as Geno, IMO).

Sounds familiar 

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Agreed. I think he is a bigger, far more mentally prepared Bryce to some extent.

I do think he ends up being the best QB of this class but I am unsure that will be more than just a league average starter.

Bryce shits all over Sanders as a prospect 

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6 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Bryce shits all over Sanders as a prospect 

I generally disagree. I think people legimately underestimate the "NFL bubble" that Sanders developed in. 

But, I also said Bryce was the best prospect in his class so that didn't exactly pan out yet.

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Agreed. I think he is a bigger, far more mentally prepared Bryce to some extent.

I do think he ends up being the best QB of this class but I am unsure that will be more than just a league average starter.

I agree that he's the best QB in this class. Also agree that he'll be better than Bryce was out the gate. He won't be surprised by the NFL. But Bryce Young was a much better prospect than Sanders. #1 in his high school class and Heisman winner. He's on a different level than Sanders. 

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14 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

I agree that he's the best QB in this class. Also agree that he'll be better than Bryce was out the gate. He won't be surprised by the NFL. But Bryce Young was a much better prospect than Sanders. #1 in his high school class and Heisman winner. He's on a different level than Sanders. 

Yeah, I am not sure about that. Bryce showed flashes of being the "super processor" I personally thought he was in the home stretch last season but I can't swear his ceiling is appreciably higher. I fuging hope so. fug my evaluation, we just deserve it as a franchise after all this BS we have delt with.

I hope you are correct.

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4 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

Easy you look at them as prospects. Just because Bryce as struggled for the most part doesn't change the fact that he was a much better prospect coming out 

Yes, but this is in comparison to other QBs that were coming out in that class with him which is looking to be really bad if you remove stroud. It was stated numerous time during the draft process that QB class wasnt that good and they would all rank below future QB classes if they were in other drafts.

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