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Andrew Luck News & Updates

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ickmule Grand Master

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It amazes me how may people on these forums are completely clueless. Bottom line: It's a QB league. If you don't have a great QB you might as well have nothing. Luck has the potential to be a great QB. You draft him and fill in the holes around him. It's a roll of the dice. But every team has to roll those dice every now and then.

Perfect post! I couldn't agree more!

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blackcatgrowl Newbie

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Closer to it then Jimmy Clausen.

Oh no doubt. But is he elite?

Hard to answer eh? His stats don't really show he is.

In fact... Ryan isn't even in the top 10 QBs in the league this year for yardage, and for ratings he's #15. Total TD's he's #8.

But hey... look at that... Atlanta is getting ready to lock up the #1 seed for the NFC (unless by some miracle Fox goes out with a bang... not likely though). How did they do this without a top 5 QB?

Oh... yeah... it's a team sport.

Yes, the QB is an important part of that, but not the MOST important part.

So I say to this whole "WE MUST HAVE LUCK!" non-sense... B.S. We must have a solid TEAM starting with the Front Office and Ownership first. If we get the #1 draft pick and get Luck, it will be meaningless unless we have a Front Office/Ownership that doesn't draft "projects" or not go after anyone in Free Agency.

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rayzor Grand Master

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ryan is on his way to elite and he is one of the most respected young QBs in the league right now. you can't judge a QB on stats alone. he made that his team and he was/is a humongous piece to what made that team as good as it has become the past few years. as far as players go, it was the most important and crucial part to getting them on track. there were other things that needed to happen and they did.

we are in much of the same situation. we need that and a few other pieces brought in.

no one is saying he is the only piece, just that getting him (or cam) is one of the most important pieces and should not be overlooked.

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vorbis Community Regular

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seriously, blackcatgrowl, lay off the endless sarcasm. it's not doing your argument any good at all.

bottom line is when you have the first pick in the draft, you depend on your scouting department to find you the absolute best player in the draft and you pick that player. that is the luxury of being at #1. in certain scenarios it makes the best sense to trade down and pick up more picks in an attempt to plug 3 or 4 solid young players into your system and get the ball rolling. otherwise, you find the best player and get him on your team and hope for the best.

the way scouts around the league are talking about luck, he is a QB prospect of a quality that doesn't come around very often at all. if true, that kinda makes him the best player in the draft by default. i imagine hurney (or his replacement, in the unlikely case that he is canned or walks) will want to hear from his own scouting department about luck, other QB prospects, and studly prospects at other positions to consider at #1.

honestly, the multiple holes that the panthers have do NOT all need to be filled from this draft. i don't think the panthers have a problem with being too old, too veteran, or needing an influx of young blood to give energy to the team. in fact, i think it's kind of the opposite. the panthers will be in a pretty good financial situation with or without a salary cap for 2011. i suspect key free agents will be brought in to provide veteran stability and competition at the most obvious problem spots. there's literally no logic that supports a continued dependence solely on the development of young, cheap players. not if you want to win, anyway. a new coach will want to get his program implemented and pick up as many wins as possible in season 1 to build momentum and keep his job. the front office will want to show support for this new coach by supplementing the young core with free agent players that can be depended on for more or less steady production.

a few players will be brought in via the 3rd round compensation pick(s) the panthers will receive from departed FA's of past years (peppers, diggs, probably someone else i'm forgetting). i guess what i'm saying is, barring an absolutely irresistable package in trade for the #1, the panthers are not under a ton of pressure to turn things right around using only the 2011 draft. if luck is the player that the panthers' scouting department thinks is the best player in the whole draft, then the panthers will pick him and not look back and sleep well at night knowing they put their best foot forward.

so in saying that, maybe luck isn't the "answer" as you say, but he could be one of several that add up to making a biiiiiig difference in the next panthers team to take the field.

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bleys Newbie

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ryan is on his way to elite and he is one of the most respected young QBs in the league right now. you can't judge a QB on stats alone. he made that his team and he was/is a humongous piece to what made that team as good as it has become the past few years. as far as players go, it was the most important and crucial part to getting them on track. there were other things that needed to happen and they did.

we are in much of the same situation. we need that and a few other pieces brought in.

no one is saying he is the only piece, just that getting him (or cam) is one of the most important pieces and should not be overlooked.

this.. I can only assume all the hate Ryan gets on this forum is more likely blind hate than anything justified..

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bleys Newbie

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Oh hell yes I would. Show me an Eagles fan, and I will show you someone who is sick of mediocrity. In fact, I know several, and they ALL are tired of the program up there of failure year after year.

The Eagles have been one of the most winning-est teams in the last decade.. Philly fans have been spoon fed success for so long they need shot for thinking in those terms.. I know, I have tons of family there and bitch at them for their sad, incredibly naive logic..

I'd trade the Eagles success the last 10 years for the Panthers, and assume we won the SB in '03..

As insanely difficult as it is to win a SB in the most competitive league in all of sports.. You are a f**king moron if you think "SB or Bust" is a logical philosophy as a fan..

if you have 2 or 3 great years, as a franchise you are lucky.. much less the success the Eagles have put together..

To use the pathetic Eagles FANS who are INSANELY spoiled as a barometer of "fact" is like going to an insane asylum for a life coach..

to call one of the top 5 most successful teams in the last decade mediocre is easily the dumbest thing ever written..

http://www.ihavenet.com/NFL/NFL-2009-Best-NFL-Records-Past-10-Years.html

and these f**kers are about to make another deep playoff run.. with more success ahead of them..

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Matthias Proficient

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The Panthers hold all the cards. We can assume that John Elway want Luck, so the Broncos may want Luck. Shanahan may see Luck as the reconstruction of John Elway, so the Redskins may want Luck. The 49ers, Cardinals, Vikings, and maybe most of the league may want Luck. Well, too bad! It's about time Carolina had a run at being an elite team for years to come.:cool:

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