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5 hours ago, Icege said:

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Looks like they're high on Shemar Stewart and Mykel Williams as well, though I can see them getting the nod over Ez + JPJ because the former have clear bull rushes and whether or not the latter can convert speed-to-power vs. grown men playing OT in the NFL we'll just have to wait and see. Glad to see JT round out the top 8. Surprised that they've got Swinson and Powell-Ryland as low as they do.

As a VT fan, powell-ryland isn't a guy I'd put very high on an NFL list. I'm nervous the development path is minimal and he's maxed out physically. I don't see a 3 down guy there. 

Savion jones is the untapped potential guy. He's worth a look as that's rare size speed and length. I get it, the production isn't there. But he'd be a solid guy that late (4th) that sticks for all downs in multiple systems.

Diggs is a guy that might stick 3 downs in a 3-4 as an OLB. He's built longer than APR so I get why APR is so low on this list. He's like APR that he's older for the class and worry the potential jump is smaller than some of the others. 

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6 hours ago, chbright said:

As a VT fan, powell-ryland isn't a guy I'd put very high on an NFL list. I'm nervous the development path is minimal and he's maxed out physically. I don't see a 3 down guy there. 

Savion jones is the untapped potential guy. He's worth a look as that's rare size speed and length. I get it, the production isn't there. But he'd be a solid guy that late (4th) that sticks for all downs in multiple systems.

Diggs is a guy that might stick 3 downs in a 3-4 as an OLB. He's built longer than APR so I get why APR is so low on this list. He's like APR that he's older for the class and worry the potential jump is smaller than some of the others. 

Diggs a good player. If we miss out on getting the earlier guys, I like him a little later. 

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Linebacker rankings. Schwesinger’s continued rise the past few months was inevitable. Won’t make it out of the 30s. Stutsman a good consolation prize for those that miss on him. Knight Jr. could be a really good 3-4 plugger so maybe that’s a fit for us, not as instinctive.

Late rounds I’d take a flier on Nick Martin or Cody Simon. Still think we need a piece there.

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12 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

A TE in the top 10 is the epitome of an unsafe pick

Kyle Pitts and OJ Howard were both top-10 TE picks by the Falcons and Bucs.

Howard was a bust (and I think out of the league) and Pitts has been a massive disappointment so far.

They both were seen as incredible prospects.  TE might be the hardest position in the entire NFL to project.

Greg Olsen was a 1st rounder who showed some flashes, but he didn't really flourish until he came here.

Many TEs have their best seasons several seasons in... just far too many unknowns for a team that still has so many major needs.

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12 hours ago, Seltzer said:

Kyle Pitts and OJ Howard were both top-10 TE picks by the Falcons and Bucs.

Howard was a bust (and I think out of the league) and Pitts has been a massive disappointment so far.

They both were seen as incredible prospects.  TE might be the hardest position in the entire NFL to project.

Greg Olsen was a 1st rounder who showed some flashes, but he didn't really flourish until he came here.

Many TEs have their best seasons several seasons in... just far too many unknowns for a team that still has so many major needs.

All quite different players. Olsen had some work to do and always lacked some explosion as a player. Pitts played off the line a ton in college. Was really a jumbo slot receiver (Cough TMac Cough.) Warren’s comp coming out should be Shockey who was a solid 4 time ProBowler, but no GOAT. It’s not often you get one that belongs top half R1, but Warren is one. I’d still draft another direction I suppose. 

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Olsen was drafted with pick 31. Why are we comparing the epitome of a quality TE without burst to the bust of Pitts (terrible hands for a receiving TE) and Howard (just an all around bust)?

Olsen was a great 2nd round TE taken 2 picks early. That's what Warren looks like...well he looks slower than Olsen by a bit to me. In no reality is that worth a top 10 pick IMO.

It's going to be fun watching the team that drafts him realize his speed and size won't look the same in the NFL.  Maybe we can trade for him like we did with Olsen in year 3 or 4 of his rookie deal.

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32 minutes ago, Swaggasaurus said:

All quite different players. Olsen had some work to do and always lacked some explosion as a player. Pitts played off the line a ton in college. Was really a jumbo slot receiver (Cough TMac Cough.) Warren’s comp coming out should be Shockey who was a solid 4 time ProBowler, but no GOAT. It’s not often you get one that belongs top half R1, but Warren is one. I’d still draft another direction I suppose. 

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7 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I'm always a little leery of guys that have college careers like this.  5th year seniors are at an advantage in college, and are most times closer to their ceiling than a guy coming out after 3 years.

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He may be the greatest TE to ever play when its said and done but fans should storm mint street if he is drafted by us.  But spoiler alert he isnt going to be. 

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