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God forbid this is the way the Draft shakes out

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11 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

You guys whom are so desperate for another offensive player will make any argument to justify your stance. 

On offensive players whose value equals 10 too is QBs and elite left tackles. 

Otherwise, it's defense. 

I'm not mad either way they go honestly bc we not a complete team.  We could easily draft Vernon ghoslton all over and that value wouldn't mean a thing. We aren't in the position of wasting picks. Our pick needs to be a starter and with limited guess work of how he'd fit in. Evero, doesn't deserve the choice of wasting another player career. Chinn and Luvu could've did more damage. Hopefully  we hit the pick if it's Walker or Williams but we need production for our team... offense or defense. 

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3 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

The TE has always ranked 5th in targets Canales system.  Makes no sense to get a TE so high

Imo pick needs to be TMac or defense. But I wouldn’t be mad if they went with Warren 

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1 minute ago, Lurk21 said:

I'm not mad either way they go honestly bc we not a complete team.  We could easily draft Vernon ghoslton all over and that value wouldn't mean a thing. We aren't in the position of wasting picks. Our pick needs to be a starter and with limited guess work of how he'd fit in. Evero, doesn't deserve the choice of wasting another player career. Chinn and Luvu could've did more damage. Hopefully  we hit the pick uf it's Walker or Williams but we need production for our team... offense or defense. 

Yeah, ultimately we need to avoid a bust and basically a role/rotational player at 8. Get someone who is going to contribute from day one and make a difference.

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6 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

The TE has always ranked 5th in targets Canales system.  Makes no sense to get a TE so high

This is something that people aren't considering for several positions, offensively and defensively. It's not just about the player, it's about the fit.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, ultimately we need to avoid a bust and basically a role/rotational player at 8. Get someone who is going to contribute from day one and make a difference.

The best way to look at it!!  The best value for our team... the pick has to contribute!!

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7 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Imo pick needs to be TMac or defense. But I wouldn’t be mad if they went with Warren 

I'm not against Tmac but I feel Golden  makes as much since in the offense we have. His game resembles Coker and Leggette to a degree. Golden gives us the quick twitch wr with yac that could find open spots for Bryce faster.  Even then, I would rather trade back a few and draft either. 

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1 minute ago, Lurk21 said:

The best way to look at it!!  The best value for our team... the pick has to contribute!!

Don't get me wrong, positional value and fit are a big deal. This is why I am dead set on trading down.

Better value, less risk all things considered.

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1 hour ago, Lurk21 said:

The best way to look at it!!  The best value for our team... the pick has to contribute!!

 

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Don't get me wrong, positional value and fit are a big deal. This is why I am dead set on trading down.

Better value, less risk all things considered.

 

I listen to Jake delhomie on radio and he basically said "They need some "guys" ". I've been saying the #1 goal for the draft is just add talent. That's #1-5 goals= add talent. Figure how to get them on field later.... Outside of dbrown, hunt, and maybe horn. No one is respected or feared by other teams. Even during the 7-9 years, Panthers were a tough game and had Thomas Davis, Smitty, peppers, gross, stew, Luke, kalil, norwell, Olsen, minter, Norman. Those are "guys" and even if a lost happened, the other team had sit in ice baths longer....

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2 hours ago, Lurk21 said:

I'm not mad either way they go honestly bc we not a complete team.  We could easily draft Vernon ghoslton all over and that value wouldn't mean a thing. We aren't in the position of wasting picks. Our pick needs to be a starter and with limited guess work of how he'd fit in. Evero, doesn't deserve the choice of wasting another player career. Chinn and Luvu could've did more damage. Hopefully  we hit the pick if it's Walker or Williams but we need production for our team... offense or defense. 

I'm not mad. Won't be mad no matter who they draft. 

Just been watching the NFL a very long time. 

 

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13 hours ago, Basbear said:

 

 

I listen to Jake delhomie on radio and he basically said "They need some "guys" ". I've been saying the #1 goal for the draft is just add talent. That's #1-5 goals= add talent. Figure how to get them on field later.... Outside of dbrown, hunt, and maybe horn. No one is respected or feared by other teams. Even during the 7-9 years, Panthers were a tough game and had Thomas Davis, Smitty, peppers, gross, stew, Luke, kalil, norwell, Olsen, minter, Norman. Those are "guys" and even if a lost happened, the other team had sit in ice baths longer....

I agree. We should take the best player left on the board or trade down. Whomever it is needs to heavily contribute on day 1. 

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15 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

You guys whom are so desperate for another offensive player will make any argument to justify your stance. 

On offensive players whose value equals 10 too is QBs and elite left tackles. 

Otherwise, it's defense. 

The NFL tells everyone exactly how much they value every position when they hand out free agent contracts. Receivers are making $35M a year, it’s a premium position.

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50 minutes ago, theinstrumental said:

The NFL tells everyone exactly how much they value every position when they hand out free agent contracts. Receivers are making $35M a year, it’s a premium position.

different viewpoint 

Has that helped the Bengals?  

…the eagles have premium receivers but they also mostly run the ball and rely heavily on those lines and rotation 

football is, and will always be, build from the inside out

 

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4 hours ago, theinstrumental said:

The NFL tells everyone exactly how much they value every position when they hand out free agent contracts. Receivers are making $35M a year, it’s a premium position.

Who won the superbowl? The eagles?

Whom is their highest paid offensive players? 

 

 

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