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2025 NFL Draft - Round 1 Discussion


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1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

I'm thinking Sanders is going to Giants in the 2nd

Dont be shocked if one of Browns, Giants, or MAYBE saints, Raiders, or Jets could move up into the end of the first, less for the value, but for the 5th year option, same reason that we did.

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Just now, Carolina Cajun said:

Dont be shocked if one of Browns, Giants, or MAYBE saints, Raiders, or Jets could move up into the end of the first, less for the value, but for the 5th year option, same reason that we did.

I don't think the typical team is dumb enough to do that for a fringe 1st round pick. That's a Panthers special idiotic decision. 

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Kiper, you should never be allowed to have an opinion on a QB again after Pickles. You greasy haired, used car salesman fug. 

I agree with Kiper on this one. He's a starting qb.

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