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2025 NFL Draft - Day 3 Discussion

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

It's super fuged up. He might be cocky and his dad's antics might be insufferable but he is still just a kid. Making him go through something like this and then doing that is fuged up.

I will say that someone from one of the NFL teams very clearly leaked that number.

Could have been a "friend"

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4 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

See Tank Dell's combine numbers- size and 40. Tez is actually bigger and they ran very similar 40s. Straight line speed is overrated. Agree that size helps. But that dude is just a football player. And a true wide receiver. 

His game speed looks much faster than his 40. There’s lots of plays were he’s leaves his DB.

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It's super fuged up. He might be cocky and his dad's antics might be insufferable but he is still just a kid. Making him go through something like this and then doing that is fuged up.

I will say that someone from one of the NFL teams very clearly leaked that number.

It's really shitty to do something like that... I don't feel terrible he hasn't been drafted tbh - he will land on a team - but it isn't his fault his father is who he is and he doesn't deserve torment right now for it.

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3 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

See Tank Dell's combine numbers- size and 40. Tez is actually bigger and they ran very similar 40s. Straight line speed is overrated. Agree that size helps. But that dude is just a football player. And a true wide receiver. 

Yes but you are literally making my point for me. Tank Dell has missed 11 of 25 career games with injuries. Not minor injuries either. Concussion, broken leg and now a blown out knee. 

It's not that Johnson isn't a good football player. Not at all. It's that he might rarely see the field for you.

Now, all that being said, he IS the type of player that makes sense in the 5th round or lower.

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2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

You can say Shedeur sucks all you want, but these guys getting drafted instead of him are terrible.  Dillon Gabriel in the 3rd?  lmao Browns gonna Brown.  That's a hell of a reach for a team that's trying to do anything but pick him.

I don’t think it’s his skills that are making him fall. More than likely a sh!tyy attitude.

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2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

You can say Shedeur sucks all you want, but these guys getting drafted instead of him are terrible.  Dillon Gabriel in the 3rd?  lmao Browns gonna Brown.  That's a hell of a reach for a team that's trying to do anything but pick him.

If you don't think he's a starter for you, that means he's a backup. So then, you have to decide what his potential ceiling is, and then evaluate how well you think he'd do as a backup. Unfortunately, he doesn't come off as a backup and I think the sad reality is his father's media circus turns people off from that. 

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3 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

You can say Shedeur sucks all you want, but these guys getting drafted instead of him are terrible.  Dillon Gabriel in the 3rd?  lmao Browns gonna Brown.  That's a hell of a reach for a team that's trying to do anything but pick him.

I know. Literally only one of these guys MIGHT be better than him and it's probably Shough, although his injury history is bananas. 

Dillon Gabriel is a poor man's Chad Pennington.

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