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2025 Panthers Draft Class - Overview


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1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

Grades are either C or A depending on whether they like the Tmac pick.  Not everyone believes tmac is anything other than a possession reciever.  I guess we will find out

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3 hours ago, frankw said:

No. This guy did.

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Did you see his mock draft?

https://www.nfl.com/news/gennaro-filice-2025-nfl-mock-draft-2-0-rb-ashton-jeanty-goes-top-5-cowboys-jump-for-jalon-walker

This man had Shedeur Sanders going 9th overall and us trading down to pick 12 to draft cornerback Jahdae Barron.

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Not defending the guy and honestly don't even know who he is, but a lot of people had Sanders going to the Saints until they literally came out the week before the draft and said they absolutely were not taking a QB at #9.  Even a few holdouts thought it was a bluff.

So everyone that had us taking Williams or Walker are clowns?  Only a very few mocks leading up to the draft had us taking TMac.  He was a popular choice to us early on (myself included) and, in hind sight, why the "leaks" of us loving Walker to the media was so common.  Verge did get one thing right about the draft, Walker was a smokescreen.  Sure he may have been the consolation prize if TMac had got taking by the Jags or Jets, but we now know who really was the #1 target.

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3 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Grades are either C or A depending on whether they like the Tmac pick.  Not everyone believes tmac is anything other than a possession reciever.  I guess we will find out

The main detractors think we should have went defense in round 1 and then came back to WR in either rounds 2 or 3.   In other words, DEF>>>WR in terms of need and thus dinged us on the grade.

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18 hours ago, 45catfan said:

So everyone that had us taking Williams or Walker are clowns?

Those are bad picks at 8.  The draft grade depends on how you view TMac. We viewed him highly (that scares me since our scouts appear to suck at wr eval.). Taking Walker or Williams would have been bad at 8; one was injured for a whole year and the other was a tweener.  The move was to trade back. However, if we broadcast we wanted to move up as a smoke screen (which we did) then those trade back offers would have been weak.

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On 5/25/2025 at 7:07 PM, tukafan21 said:

Have they said when the Blueprint Draft episode is going to be released?

Kinda weird to put out the teaser but not a date for it, already itching to watch all the T-Mac stuff

 

 

It's coming soon according to DG. If you want to read about it, check out his ask a old guy segment at Panthers website. Honestly the one of the best ways to stay up to date on Panthers news, is going to Panthers.com..... times have changed..

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On 5/27/2025 at 5:15 PM, Basbear said:

 

 

It's coming soon according to DG. If you want to read about it, check out his ask a old guy segment at Panthers website. Honestly the one of the best ways to stay up to date on Panthers news, is going to Panthers.com..... times have changed..

Nothing can beat the Charlotte observer comments section circa late 90's

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22 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Nothing can beat the Charlotte observer comments section circa late 90's

 

I was never a 90s member, but I did read them in the 2000s. I was a member on "the herald'(sp?) and Darin Gantts papers website(was that the herald?? geez..). Steve Reed was a good reporter on both hornets and Panthers, I forget that website/paper. I just remember the panthers.com was 4 day joke with old information and they at one point had a forum too, it didn't last and was a total mess. I know when the observer shut down comments, many came here. I was on scout.com and that too shut down, but it got over modded and I got banned(??) posting a Dave Chappelle KKK skit. Mods thought it was the real thing never cared to watch it. I was bouncing around and always knew of this place, honestly I didn't like how it had too many members...weirdo. Still at that point Panthers.com was joke, they would post release players from days ago and nothing worth reading or watching (minus pressers). Then Bill voth changed the site and updated it to be fresh along with that best SM Force. They understood modern digital era and years passed and now its the best website for all things Panthers. They even break news there now too, unheard of years ago. 

 

Here at the huddle used to have the most freedom(what happen??), that's why I planted myself here. I enjoyed Zobs TC notes, pictures, and insight. Now people are on x, bragbook, or intrasface. 

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3 hours ago, Basbear said:

 

I was never a 90s member, but I did read them in the 2000s. I was a member on "the herald'(sp?) and Darin Gantts papers website(was that the herald?? geez..). Steve Reed was a good reporter on both hornets and Panthers, I forget that website/paper. I just remember the panthers.com was 4 day joke with old information and they at one point had a forum too, it didn't last and was a total mess. I know when the observer shut down comments, many came here. I was on scout.com and that too shut down, but it got over modded and I got banned(??) posting a Dave Chappelle KKK skit. Mods thought it was the real thing never cared to watch it. I was bouncing around and always knew of this place, honestly I didn't like how it had too many members...weirdo. Still at that point Panthers.com was joke, they would post release players from days ago and nothing worth reading or watching (minus pressers). Then Bill voth changed the site and updated it to be fresh along with that best SM Force. They understood modern digital era and years passed and now its the best website for all things Panthers. They even break news there now too, unheard of years ago. 

 

Here at the huddle used to have the most freedom(what happen??), that's why I planted myself here. I enjoyed Zobs TC notes, pictures, and insight. Now people are on x, bragbook, or intrasface. 

David Tepper happened. 

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I find it interesting that TMac was shown here practicing without gloves.  Is that a new approach to improving hands because the gloves are so sticky?  

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If you think about the draft and evaluated the talent at each position and rate them by round, you see what the Panthers did--get the best WR in the draft.  in round 2, you had WRs like Bech and Tre Harris going--meanwhile, the Panthers grabbed Scourton (late first round grade) and Princely (expected to be drafted in the middle of the second round).   Bech and Harris were projected to be third rounders.  

If you evaluate the draft by your expectations of the performance of the talent, you are guessing and trying for clicks.  However, if you understand the depth of talent at each position and align that with needs,  the strategy becomes the issue--not a subjective guess.  Did the Panthers address WR and Edge wisely, considering the players likely to be available?  Yes.  

Ask yourself this:  In the Panther system, is it possible that Scourton would be a better edge than Walker?  I think he is a better fit.  Princely?  Better fit.  

Morgan had an excellent draft.  When you see Ransom play S, you will be convinced that it was a Home Run.  That pick was solid and he will be here for a long time.

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More about Ransom, 4th round, pick 122.

I found this to be very interesting--look how they used him at Ohio State--

Some of us had him as a Strong Safety, but I just think he is a hybrid. I mean, 60% of the snaps last year he had deep safety responsibilities. In 2023, Ransom was deep 53% of snaps.  Note how that transition was gradual when in 2022, where he was deep only 31% of the time-- his primary responsibilities were as a box safety who covered the slot frequently.  While his first duties were that of a box safety in 2022, he evolved into a deep safety with some slot coverage abilities.  

He is described as very smart, and you can see how Ohio State gave him responsibilities that require a very versatile skill set and level of intelligence.  I think, when all the dust settles, Ransom will be our steal of the draft.  Horn is right there with him. 

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9 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Ask yourself this:  In the Panther system, is it possible that Scourton would be a better edge than Walker?  I think he is a better fit.  Princely?  Better fit.

Walker and the other edge rushers would have been a bad pick at 8. The real question is whether we should have traded back. 

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