D. Morgan on T-Mac: “I made the decision pretty early [January]

[Proudiddy]

34 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Time to swap that avatar.

I think the joke it ultimately became serves as a double entendre of sorts, but yeah, I will.

[jfra78]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

I wrote a long dissertation on who they would pick, breaking down the draft by needs and player availability and concluded (at that time) that we would go WR in the first.  Being right is humbling and dignifying.  I predicted that the Panthers would draft Matthew Golden.

To be fair you named about 452 different players over the weeks

[carpanfan96]

48 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

They just showed the 49ers calling Mykel Williams to let him know he's their pick in the 1st and Lynch told him they tried to trade up for him. Was that the trade they tried to make with the Panthers? 

Probably so, Panthers didn't take it because of teams between the picks. 

[tukafan21]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

Im glad you were here, cause I didn't want to take on that task!! You did a better job than I would have, I dropped in when needed with some kill shots. 

I wanted all the smoke LOL

As I said a ton of times, when people wanted to bring up legitimate weaknesses, I wouldn't attack them, because it was fair, but I'd also point out why his strengths were also unique and why I felt he still should be the pick.

But it was when people would come out with the nonsense that in no way, shape, or form were near remotely accurate, that's when the claws came out, you're not going to besmirch my Wildcat GOAT and get away with it. 

When you've watched literally every snap of a player's career, half of them just watching him instead of the full play anyways, you can easily tell the people who are talking about him without seeing anything more than maybe a few minutes of highlights.  I was never going to let those people get the last word in on him, not a chance, haha.

Edited 12 hours ago by tukafan21

[ClawOn]

Now that I've watched some tape after being 100% wrong that there was no chance we'd take him, I see a lot of Mike Evans in his game.   If he's 80-90% of Evans, what a game changer for years to come.

[carpanfan96]

8 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I wanted all the smoke LOL

As I said a ton of times, when people wanted to bring up legitimate weaknesses, I wouldn't attack them, because it was fair, but I'd also point out why his strengths were also unique and why I felt he still should be the pick.

But it was when people would come out with the nonsense that in no way, shape, or form were near remotely accurate, that's when the claws came out, you're not going to besmirch my Wildcat GOAT and get away with it. 

When you've watched literally every snap of a player's career, half of them just watching him instead of the full play anyways, you can easily tell the people who are talking about him without seeing anything more than maybe a few minutes of highlights.  I was never going to let those people get the last word in on him, not a chance, haha.

What do you think he needs to do to fix his issues going against man coverage? 54% open rating against man coverage while at Arizona. 

He's great against zone coverage but he gets shut down by press and man coverage. 

[carpanfan96]

9 minutes ago, ClawOn said:

Now that I've watched some tape after being 100% wrong that there was no chance we'd take him, I see a lot of Mike Evans in his game.   If he's 80-90% of Evans, what a game changer for years to come.

He plays more like Courtland Sutton than he does Evans. 

[tukafan21]

21 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

What do you think he needs to do to fix his issues going against man coverage? 54% open rating against man coverage while at Arizona. 

He's great against zone coverage but he gets shut down by press and man coverage. 

So I'm not sure what goes into the rating and if it's meant does he get open vs the coverage or if it means the targets he gets in those coverages are open or not.  As he had so many contested catches this year that were only that because our QB didn't throw it while he was open.  

Also, if he ever had man coverage, there was always a safety and/or a linebacker who would shade over to give double or triple coverage on him, they never let CB's just out on an island with him because the few times he did, they were automatic completions.  So I'm sure that plays a factor into why he struggled to get open more in man, particularly as against a zone, he's VERY good at finding the holes in them and sitting down to give his QB a big target to find.

But either way, the #1 thing I've always said he has to improve upon the most is his get off at the line, which absolutely would play a factor in him beating man coverage more often.

Which is also why I've been so high on him, because that's something that NFL coaches can get you better at doing at the next level.  It's much easier to coach things like that up than a player's hands or overall route running.

It's also a reason I think him and Bryce are a great pairing, because with Bryce's anticipation and T-Mac's hands/radius, T-Mac won't need to create huge gaps of separation, all he needs is that small bit of separation and the ball is going to be there on time and he'll pluck it out of the air before the DB can get a hand on him to break it up.

Edited 11 hours ago by tukafan21

[tukafan21]

20 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

He plays more like Courtland Sutton than he does Evans. 

He plays more like AJ Green than either of those two.

But to be fair, I did see a number of analysts say that there really aren't a lot of great comparisons for him, that he's a little bit unique.  He's more athletic than Evans or London, but doesn't use his physicality of either of them, but he uses it more than guys like Sutton does.

Edited 11 hours ago by tukafan21

[Beast_3000]

20 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

What do you think he needs to do to fix his issues going against man coverage? 54% open rating against man coverage while at Arizona. 

He's great against zone coverage but he gets shut down by press and man coverage. 

Legette is better in man while T-Mac is better finding holes in the zone, so in my opinion pick your poison! 1A or 1B

Edited 11 hours ago by Beast_3000

[Aussie Tank]

2 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

So...... what you're saying is I got into 3 months worth of arguments and posting until my fingers hurt from typing out novels each day for nothing?

Oh well, T-Mac is still a Panther in the end, totally worth it, LOL.

Fingers crossed you can ride this high for 10 years of stellar play. But by some chance he shits the bed your in for your gonna cop it 

[tukafan21]

5 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Fingers crossed you can ride this high for 10 years of stellar play. But by some chance he shits the bed your in for your gonna cop it 

lol, a friend of mine texted me after we drafted him and said something like, "so if he fails, will you have to change your name on your message board or go into hiding?" 

And yea, I've clearly planted my flag on him and what I believe he can be.  So while I 100% honestly don't believe it will ever come to it, but yea, if he busts, I'll obviously have to eat crow.

But I won't have to, when he's killing it for us for the next decade, everyone who hated on him the last few months will cheer for him and just know in the back of their minds that, "yep, he was right about this kid."

Edited 11 hours ago by tukafan21

[Icege]

I don't see the Evans nor the Sutton comps tbh

Not sure I see AJ either... I was watching him when he was at Summerville High School

Call me crazy, but I see Kenny Golloday with better hands and smoother athleticism. Runs angry like Golloday did with a long stride.

Edited 11 hours ago by Icege

[MHS831]

4 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

Well played haha

Does it at least make you feel better about us taking T-Mac instead of Golden like you wanted, now that there are all these reports of teams like the Rams and Cowboys badly wanting T-Mac and trying to move up for them, but the Cowboys then passed on Golden and the Rams didn't try to trade up for him either?

I probably predicted about 30 players over time--I found it increases your odds.  When I heard Morgan say that Canales wanted a tall receiver, I think we all would have known TMac was the pick.  I do believe that Morgan pooped a little when Xavier Legette decided to go public and tell the media that he was told he'd be the Panthers pick.