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BREAKING: Jaycee Horn in Minor Car Accident


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1 hour ago, frankw said:

In some instances I agree athletes should have drivers. But in this case he was parked if I read correctly. Driver or no driver unfortunately there are dangerous people on the roads. Especially in the Charlotte area. They are lunatics.

CLT is top 2-3 in the US for awful drivers. It's insane. 

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4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

CLT is top 2-3 in the US for awful drivers. It's insane. 

Yup. Born and raised in Charlotte. Now that I'm older Kannapolis is the better living option. And even then Charlotte drivers are slowly making their way here unfortunately. With that crime and insane overdevelopment Charlotte has just become a nightmare.

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5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

CLT is top 2-3 in the US for awful drivers. It's insane. 

I've seen some bad drivers in Charlotte, but Baltimore (where traffic lights and signs are just a soft recommendation), DC (where it's kill or be killed - don't ever get caught in a circle, you'll be fighting for your life) and Manhattan (I saw a taxi with a bar on the front fender literally move a car out of his way in traffic) are much worse. Like on a different level of crazy!

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13 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

I've seen some bad drivers in Charlotte, but Baltimore (where traffic lights and signs are just a soft recommendation), DC (where it's kill or be killed - don't ever get caught in a circle, you'll be fighting for your life) and Manhattan (I saw a taxi with a bar on the front fender literally move a car out of his way in traffic) are much worse. Like on a different level of crazy!

NY and Boston easily the worst driving in the country IMO.  DC area traffic is terrible and up there.  But Boston is vehicular combat.  A turn signal is a threat to people's existence up there.

And in NYC people parallel park by running into each others cars.  Its crazy.

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#1 thing i would do if i had the money...hire a driver. i'd rather be able to spend my time doing other things. 

when i retire, i thought about buying a camper, but i think i would want someone to drive it for me. i want to be able to relax. driving those things around wouldn't do it. 

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Lest “they should hire drivers” keep being subjected to absolutely insane interpretations, here’s a few thoughts I have on the subject:

1. There is value in a professional who is better trained and more emotionally detached.

2. These athletes bodies are their livelihood and they should mitigate risk wherever possible and/or reasonable. For somebody making as much as Jaycee Horn, Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, I personally think hiring a driver would be a reasonable expense.

3. There is value in riding in the back of a car designed for such purposes, as opposed to the drivers seat where you can get forcibly hit in the face, chest, shoulders, and arms by a drivers air bag during a minor collision. Those air bags are designed to save lives during major collisions but they can easily do more harm than good during minor ones, especially when a torn rotator, fractured orbital, cracked ribs, concussion, any of the common airbag injuries could be career altering for these guys.

4. It shouldn’t need to be said that nobody thinks hiring a driver makes anybody immune to car accidents.

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5 minutes ago, rayzor said:

#1 thing i would do if i had the money...hire a driver. i'd rather be able to spend my time doing other things. 

when i retire, i thought about buying a camper, but i think i would want someone to drive it for me. i want to be able to relax. driving those things around wouldn't do it. 

I don’t make anything close to what these athletes do and have contemplated it myself. I really never understand when I see the photos/videos of some of these top paid guys rolling into camp, game days, etc. personally driving their own vehicles.

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22 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

NY and Boston easily the worst driving in the country IMO.  DC area traffic is terrible and up there.  But Boston is vehicular combat.  A turn signal is a threat to people's existence up there.

And in NYC people parallel park by running into each others cars.  Its crazy.

Seems like it’s getting pretty bad everywhere. Doesn’t help that there’s different rules everywhere and places where it’s more dangerous to follow the actual law. I forget the name of the highway around Miami but I’ve driven it a few times and if you don’t go like 90 you’re in actual danger and causing a hazard for others. Or some places at 4-way stop lights U-turn yields to right turns and other places right turns yield to u-turns and now everybody is confused every time and it’s a cluster fug. And then there is zero requirement for anybody to prove any sort of competence on an ongoing basis to drive.

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9 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

I forget the name of the highway around Miami but I’ve driven it a few times and if you don’t go like 90 you’re in actual danger and causing a hazard for others.

The interstate that connects NYC to Connecticut is like that.  It's like a NASCAR track.  Even the cable guy is doing 85+.

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In case anyone is still wondering why the huddle is dead, the discourse above is why. Yeah the team sucks but I’m sifting through pages to find any info on the actual topic  other than OP lol 

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1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

I've seen some bad drivers in Charlotte, but Baltimore (where traffic lights and signs are just a soft recommendation), DC (where it's kill or be killed - don't ever get caught in a circle, you'll be fighting for your life) and Manhattan (I saw a taxi with a bar on the front fender literally move a car out of his way in traffic) are much worse. Like on a different level of crazy!

I would rather Baltimore or Manhattan personally. I will say the most insane was Lake Charles, LA. That place was straight looney toons. Almost everyone I knew working there while I was down there had been hit by someone running a red light. I genuinely never touched the gas on a green light, you were bound to see some mush mouthed swamp Frenchie blow straight through the red seconds afterwards doing way over the speed limit. Never seen anything like that place.

I will say OH/MI drivers take the cake for driving in the rain. I have never seen the amount of wrecks in just regular rain that I do in those areas.

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1 hour ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

NY and Boston easily the worst driving in the country IMO.  DC area traffic is terrible and up there.  But Boston is vehicular combat.  A turn signal is a threat to people's existence up there.

And in NYC people parallel park by running into each others cars.  Its crazy.

Boston people are nuts when it comes to combative driving. They are actively seeking confrontation. 

Same with their retarded sports fans.

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