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Tonight's Game

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PantherChris Grand Master

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4 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

You’re entitled to your opinion, brother, as am I.  I’m not starting a fan club for any players any time soon lol, but I like the guys I like and I pull for them.  Shadeur is one of those guys.  And obviously, I’m gonna pull for all of our players.

but, I think it would be a bit unfair to just dismiss what Shadeur is doing tonight.  From college to the pros as a rookie, everyone knows the speed is different, the game is faster, the athletes are better, etc., it’s a huge jump.  I wasn’t bringing up Bryce because of what you said about him, because I have no idea what your stance on him is.  I brought him up because we gave up a ton to get him and he has not lived up to the value, AT ALL.  Cam is what a #1 pick should be.  He made the players around him better, carried teams to wins, and made plays happen where there were none.  A superstar.  A game changer.  Even with all the upgrades we have made around Bryce, it’s my opinion he will never be that.  He will always manage games and occasionally make good plays, but he doesn’t change games on his own.  So my point in saying all of that is that Bryce was not worth what we gave up to get him, even if he turns out solid.  Meanwhile, a rookie in Shadeur is out here dotting up an NFL defense in his rookie preseason debut after receiving limited reps in practice and the entire NFL passing him over for 4+ rounds, as though there is no skill gap between the college and the pros.  It’s even arguable he has looked better than Bryce tonight.  That is impressive.  How bad our defense last year is irrelevant.  Some of that is injuries, schematics, etc.  it’s a new year, and even if we were fielding all UDFAs, that is still better than any defense he faced in college, talent-wise.  I continue to bring up the investment for Bryce and the investment in Shadeur, because one had a trove of riches traded away to acquire him and he has struggled for 1.5 years before he finally showed any redeemable ability as a pro.  Whereas Shadeur was treated as an afterthought, has had his own organization treat him like they didn’t ever want him, was given every reason to not look good, and he came out here and killed it - and again, the cost to get him was easy for any organization.

In fairness there are probably only 5 or 6 QBs in NFL history that come close to Cam as an absolute game changer he was a generational athlete, I catch a lot of hate for it but Cam didn't come close to fulfilling his potential IMO Josh Allen is a poor man's Cam Newton had Cam been more a student of the game and worked out his mechanics he'd still he playing IMO. (Yes yes shoulder and all that but never did get his footwork functional) 

Also let's not pretend Sanders being a 5th rounder is all to do with his talent level dude would have been a MINIMAL 2nd rounder if teams weren't concerned about the Sanders family circus.

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5 minutes ago, CRA said:

Dude probably just needs to cash checks.  I would assume 89’s pockets about to get a lot lighter when his soon to be ex wife takes half 

Not a TMZ type of guy, but are they really split?  I remember he used to always post about her and how much she meant to him, but all of his posts lately look like he is living in his own or single.

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Just now, Gipetto said:

Winning in August means jack poo. 

We’ve said that the last 7 years but we see all of our weaknesses from August in November and then say “Guess we were right” for all of December on here and then January is armchair GM month and February is back to optimism. 

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