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Notable PFF grades vs Browns


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7 minutes ago, chbright said:

Wharton got a bag for sure after getting to play on the chiefs. Top 20 contract at DT when he signed so the plays gotta be better. It was always an overpay but that's a massive gap. Hopefully when the season rolls around we forget this preseason performance.

Preseason week 1, a new defense, limited snaps so I can understand being a little shaky. We just absolutely need him to be a contributor this year. 

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That Trevin Wallace grade is concerning albeit with a very low sample size. Like it or not, we are likely heavily counting on him this year.

It is a bit surprising, I thought he had a couple of impact plays from what I saw. But I obviously didn’t hone in on all his snaps.

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20 hours ago, PantherChris said:

Knowing this board by week three they will both be busts... even though everyone knows Pass rushers and Dline take 3 years to adjust to the NFL

 

So what what you consider as a successful season for our two rookie edge rushers? Assuming Wonnum and Jones stay healthy? 

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