You see, this is why I'm more critical of Dave Canales

[mrcompletely11]

14 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Regarding BYs depth of target...

Week 1

Week 2

 

Oof

[TD alt]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Oof

Stop it, or you may hurt his newfound feelings.

Edited September 18, 2025 by TD alt

[CRA]

3 hours ago, mrBdawg said:

There are a lot of things to complain about Bryce. But he takes shots. We throw go balls. It’s not like it’s 2023 Bryce who did not take shots and missed every time when he did 

Bryce really doesn't throw go balls.  He throws sideline fades or underthrows. 

[TD alt]

I mean, America has enough fake outrage and brazen hypocrisy.

[TD alt]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

Bryce really doesn't throw go balls.  He throws sideline fades or underthrows. 

And that's exactly what the charts indicate. I think that he may do it so much because he can't see the field. Those huge NFL lineman are impeding his view.

[mav1234]

1 hour ago, TD alt said:

And that's exactly what the charts indicate. I think that he may do it so much because he can't see the field. Those huge NFL lineman are impeding his view.

Yup.

1 completion beyond 20 yards and only 3 past 15 yards. That's in 77 attempts.

I'm not one that thinks Bryce needs to hit 40 yard passes but with how defenses play us he needs to push the ball a bit further down field.

Edited September 18, 2025 by mav1234

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, TD alt said:

And that's exactly what the charts indicate. I think that he may do it so much because he can't see the field. Those huge NFL lineman are impeding his view.

And you absolutely know nfl defensive coordinators see this

[AggieLean]

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

Regarding BYs depth of target...

Week 1

Week 2

 

We’re not going to win much of anything with charts that look like this. Only 1 pass completed beyond 20 yards. Thats not going to cut it. 

[mav1234]

37 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

We’re not going to win much of anything with charts that look like this. Only 1 pass completed beyond 20 yards. Thats not going to cut it. 

It isn't.

This was Week 18 last year:

And this was Week 16:

 

Even when having success he wasn't pushing the ball super deep down field, but at least he was going beyond 15 yards far more often. Across those 60 attempts he had 9 completions past or at 15 and 6 at 20 or beyond... Plus a whole bunch of drops.

This year he just isn't pushing the ball down the field and it's making it easy for teams to play the run, too. 

Due to his arm I think he needs to get timing down past 10 yards and maybe the big turnover in our receivers is part of why he isn't pushing the ball down field. Or maybe he can't see. Whatever the reason it needs to change.

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 hours ago, TD alt said:

And that's exactly what the charts indicate. I think that he may do it so much because he can't see the field. Those huge NFL lineman are impeding his view.

I've been assured this is absolutely not the case because there are big linemen in college too. 

[Panthers Fan 69]

7 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Steve Wilks won us some games but was also the coach during some horrible losses. I’ll never forgive him for the horrible coaching job during the second Bucs games. 14-0 lead and he blew it and didn’t adjust when Brady kept tossing bombs to Mike Evans. 
So can we STOP bring up Wilks like he was gonna be good. More than likely he would have been one and done. Just like Reich. 
His type of coaching doesn’t win Super Bowls anymore. He would have been a great coach in the 90s to early 2000s. 

Super Bowls? What the fug is that? I’d be happy with a winning record or playoff birth. And the reason we lost that game was Horn got hurt the week before. That guy was playing all world that season. Remember, we signed JNO to come back for that game and it was a poo show. Wilks was playing 3rd and 4th string guys at corner. The goat was terrorizing them. 

[raleigh-panther]

3 hours ago, mav1234 said:

Yup.

1 completion beyond 20 yards and only 3 past 15 yards. That's in 77 attempts.

I'm not one that thinks Bryce needs to hit 40 yard passes but with how defenses play us he needs to push the ball a bit further down field.

Wow

just wow 

[Martin]

I’m torn on this one. Not sure who we can attract. Getting a younger less experienced coach is probably our only choice, but then you also need to give them some time to develop. Not impressed with DC so far, but he just started his second year. What could he do with a different QB?

[mrBdawg]

20 hours ago, TD alt said:

Well, I don't have PFF or NGS, but hear is something ChatGPT produced for me. I'm at work so I don't have time to edit and all that. You get the picture. 55 passes and only really about 5 down field.

Wow that’s actually really cool chatgpt can do that

Although, as we know Arizona sat in soft zone the entire second half. So there was a lot of dinking and dunking, but that’s the right thing to do in that situation. 

Week 1 pass chart doesn’t look bad. He pushes the ball downfield more than several other quarterbacks I’ve watched. For some reason the huddle thinks other quarterbacks are constantly throwing 60 yard bombs. That is absolutely not the case. Some quarterbacks aren’t taking any deep shots at all.