The Plan To Fix The Pantsers

[Waldo]

15 minutes ago, Newtcase said:

**Opinion alert, this is just my opinion**

I think the Panther's are broken at the talent evaluation level.  The most fundamental skill an organization must have.  I think this is what plagues organizations and blesses others.  Everything has to start with getting better talent in the building.  Without that you simply can't make a solid assessment on anything downstream so eventually everything gets churned and the problems recycle.

It seems plain as day to me though, if you look at the team since Tepper our talent level has dropped every year which is somewhat insane.  We only accidentally hit on draft picks nowadays and have to try to spend our way to competitiveness on talent other teams drafted and developed.  There is no better mascot for this joke than Bryce Young.

This is all to say there is no fixing the Panthers until you fix talent evaluation.

Thr talent levels include GMs and HCs. One college salesman, a retired HC collecting free money and an OC that needed a lot more time to build up his skills. A GM who was well liked but did squat that was meaningful with his previous team and a GM that was the last guys right hand while also being likeable but also underqualified. It's systematic with Tepper.

Edited September 29, 2025 by Waldo

[LegioX]

At this point I wouldn’t even be mad if the Panthers pulled a Baltimore colts and left in the middle of the night. 

[Waldo]

4 minutes ago, LegioX said:

At this point I wouldn’t even be mad if the Panthers pulled a Baltimore colts and left in the middle of the night. 

At least we could laugh at whoever took them

[mrcompletely11]

The solution is easy.  Trade Pittsburgh 2 firsts for Tomlin 

[strato]

 Involving narcissistic Hollywood actors in any real world endeavor is a prescription for dysfunction. They lend their names to things, they don’t really do anything else but talk and pose. 

[strato]

16 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

The solution is easy.  Trade Pittsburgh 2 firsts for Tomlin 

I wouldn’t be against that my worry would be that he has been doing this a long time and there may be some burnout. 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, strato said:

I wouldn’t be against that my worry would be that he has been doing this a long time and there may be some burnout. 

thats why he needs a new change of scenary, the fans have been calling for his head for years

 

Trade 2 first let him pick the gm and establish at least a competent base of winning

[strato]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

thats why he needs a new change of scenary, the fans have been calling for his head for years

 

Trade 2 first let him pick the gm and establish at least a competent base of winning

My other reaction is ‘but but he is a defensive minded guy’. 
Which I prefer anyway. I was not in favor of a single aspect of this  migration to an offense focused organization. Or barely a single aspect. 
Dan Campbell seems an exception, he is pretty hard nosed. 

[fanpanther]

1 hour ago, Tr3ach said:

Exactly, I have no idea why Dan Morgan isnt getting so much hate right now.  We have so little talent on the team.  He was the right hand man for the worst gm we have ever had previously.   Our top position group is an almost average offensive line (highest paid in the NFL.) We also have the second highest paid defensive line in the NFL, so even just throwing a lot of money out to overpay players isnt working.  We haven't had a really good draft in years and years.  A lot of people have hope for this one, but that happens every year for a while.   Every year some people try to talk about how many rookies are playing as a way to defend his drafts.  How many of thse rookies are playing above an average player level or making a real impact?  They are playing because we have no talent.  If they got drafted by a decent team then most of these rookies would not be playing over the years.  Dan Morgan should be at the top of the list for needing to be replaced but you dont hear his name mentioned hardly at all.

I think its hard to know who is good or not with bryce young at qb.  a good qb brings up the play of those around them and a horrendous qb makes everyone suck. 

[Jon Snow]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

The studs aren't up. The foundation is only poured in the one corner and then the concrete truck driver left the job site.

This^^^^^^^^^

[Chaos]

Nuke the whole damn thing. Beyond recognition. 

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Nuke the whole damn thing. Beyond recognition. 

It already has been. You'd be nuking a crater.

[Jon Snow]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It already has been. You'd be nuking a crater.

Thats why I think it will be easier to clean out the debris and start over. 

[Captroop]

12 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It already has been. You'd be nuking a crater.

Here's the problem. No matter how many times you shell it, one thing remains the same: