Not on Bryce

[OldhamA]

2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

All you do with a Geno is hit mediocrity so it could be worse than the Jag because the Jag gets you the next try vs Geno forcing you to stay with him and take shots on longershots later in thr draft. 

It may be better football to watch but it doesn't really get you past meh. As long as the staff keeps swinging then they could stumble into the next guy being the guy even on misses.

I'd rather stumble along in mediocrity than turn the game off one drive into the third quarter. 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

Depends what you're asking that QB to do.

Can he provide you with consistent, competent QB play? We saw how different it looked with the corpse of Dalton back there. Replace that with a 27 year old who can still take an NFL hit and suddenly you're not a national embarrassment. 

You're always looking for the QB that takes you over the top, but it's not a sound strategy to keep on throwing first round picks at QBs that you simply know aren't that guy. 

If we'd built it how we have now and then dropped in Mayfield or Darnold (which I thought was the right way to approach our QB search by the way) we'd be singing a different tune right now. 

If there was a backup out there that could lead a team to victory he wouldn't be a backup. Drafting your own qb is your only option. We are still in that perpetual cycle of looking for a qb. We have never been out of it since Cam was lost. So every team will be throwing picks at the problem until they hit on one. Look at all the vet starters outside of the handful that a franchise guys. Everyone of them their teams would love to replace with a young and much better rookie. Its the nature of the game. 

[Waldo]

Just now, OldhamA said:

I'd rather stumble along in mediocrity than turn the game off one drive into the third quarter. 

Both are losers in the end so same difference. I do get the better to watch football but I would much rather watch winning football. 

I would prefer both. A cast off QB out to prove it and a young guy to coach up. Treat them like professionals and see what happens.

[DeAngelo Beason]

Listen man.  Bryce Young sucks.  I ain't watching this stupid damn video.  He's a bust.  That's the end of the story.

[mav1234]

4 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Listen man.  Bryce Young sucks.  I ain't watching this stupid damn video.  He's a bust.  That's the end of the story.

We've reached the "Hot Take: Bryce isn't as bad as everyone thinks, he's probably more like a game manager!" point where special media is generating clicks from how insane that title sounds

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

If there was a backup out there that could lead a team to victory he wouldn't be a backup. 

We literally went to a Super Bowl with an NFL Europe backup QB. LOL

We need to look everywhere for upgrades. Free agency, draft, potential low value trades. Looking for THE savior led to this Bryce Young debacle.

[OldhamA]

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We literally went to a Super Bowl with an NFL Europe backup QB. LOL

We need to look everywhere for upgrades. Free agency, draft, potential low value trades. Looking for THE savior led to this Bryce Young debacle.

Bingo. 

Hit up the Vikings for Howell. Hit up the Chargers for Lance. Hit up the 49ers for Jones. 

A competent NFL QB can be found if we try. Just staunch the bleeding. 

[OldhamA]

27 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

We've reached the "Hot Take: Bryce isn't as bad as everyone thinks, he's probably more like a game manager!" point where special media is generating clicks from how insane that title sounds

"He's not the problem - he's a game manager, it's the people around him".

We traded three first round picks for the guy. Even if he was a game manager (he's not - just look at those drives Dalton led on Sunday and compare them to everything outside of that first scripted drive by Young - it's night and day, and Dalton is waaaaashed), the fact we gave up so much for him absolutely makes him the problem. 

Teams would hesitate to trade three first round picks for Mahomes or Allen ffs. 

[Jon Snow]

27 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

We've reached the "Hot Take: Bryce isn't as bad as everyone thinks, he's probably more like a game manager!" point where special media is generating clicks from how insane that title sounds

The media is trying to save face just like the team is. Nobody wants to admit they were wrong anymore. So you have to understand that and take as such. It doesn't matter anymore because as John Foxx famously uttered, it is what it is.

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Bingo. 

Hit up the Vikings for Howell. Hit up the Chargers for Lance. Hit up the 49ers for Jones. 

A competent NFL QB can be found if we try. Just staunch the bleeding. 

I'm starting Dalton immediately with several weeks remaining before the trade deadline. That way if he struggles I still have options. If he goes out there and looks like ass, I'm absolutely on the phone trying to get someone like Howell or Jameis. If I'm Canales I'm realizing that if I can't show my offense can move the ball and put up points I'm probably cooked. Turnovers be damned, I have to prove my offense can actually move the ball and score.

[WhoKnows]

17 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

I literally stopped on the second play after watching the entire Pats secondary just run underneath all of the receivers BECAUSE THEY  ARE DARING HIM TO fuging THROW OVER THE TOP AND HE CANT.

and this douchenozzle says, “and so yeah, you can see right there the panthers want to keep it short and sweet” to excuse it.  No, dickhead, we don’t,  we don’t have a fuging choice.

Reminds me of 2018 when teams realized that Cam’s dink and dunk success early with Norv was also due to his shoulder being shot. After they did, no one played deep and we finished 1-7 that year. Cam didn’t finished that year and played 2 games the next before being shut down.

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Reminds me of 2018 when teams realized that Cam’s dink and dunk success early with Norv was also due to his shoulder being shot. After they did, no one played deep and we finished 1-7 that year. Cam didn’t finished that year and played 2 games the next before being shut down.

Yep. The people holding out hope for Bryce just aren't grappling with this. He is every bit as arm limited as Cam was post-shoulder injuries. Honestly maybe even more so. Then you complicate matters further with his height leading to him struggling to see the field and lacking Cam's running ability... I mean, he's cooked. You can't fix things that are unfixable. It's why coaches love players with prototypical physical tools. They all think they can fix mechanical issues or decision making issues because theoretically it's possible. You're can't coach a 5'10" guy 6'5", you can't coach a noodle arm into a cannon, you can't coach a slow guy fast. That's not possible.

[mrcompletely11]

19 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm starting Dalton immediately with several weeks remaining before the trade deadline. That way if he struggles I still have options. If he goes out there and looks like ass, I'm absolutely on the phone trying to get someone like Howell or Jameis. If I'm Canales I'm realizing that if I can't show my offense can move the ball and put up points I'm probably cooked. Turnovers be damned, I have to prove my offense can actually move the ball and score.

at that point, its done, we are playing for draft position

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

at that point, its done, we are playing for draft position

I've been saying that if you bench Young it's officially over. It really over right now but they just haven't accepted it yet. But it's not going to be but a few more game before they put this lame horse down. The vet is on his way as we speak.