Hey You, You Don't Know Quarterbacking

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, PNW_PantherMan said:

I think people are too invested on both sides.  The reality is that the rookie contract is a time window.  That window is running out.  It's possible that Bryce gets his own Flutie Flakes when he's 32 years old, but it's probably not gonna be with the Panthers.

Yep. We closing in on decision time. I'm out on Bryce, BUT I'm still open to picking up his option IF he continues to play as he has in recent weeks to buy us more time. But if he regresses again after a period of improved play as he has before we gotta just move on. Does Bryce honestly provide much of any lift over what you'd expect to get out of a journeyman NFL backup? His history of play suggests not. I need to see him continue to be an effective game manager before I'd be comfortably picking up his option and any consideration of a long-term contract should be completely off the table and out of the building.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, strato said:

Why you mad bro we won!

It's hard to lose a game with a 200+ yard RB.

[PNW_PantherMan]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep. We closing in on decision time. I'm out on Bryce, BUT I'm still open to picking up his option IF he continues to play as he has in recent weeks to buy us more time. But if he regresses again after a period of improved play as he has before we gotta just move on. Does Bryce honestly provide much of any lift over what you'd expect to get out of a journeyman NFL backup? His history of play suggests not. I need to see him continue to be an effective game manager before I'd be comfortably picking up his option and any consideration of a long-term contract should be completely off the table and out of the building.

The alternative is spinning the replacement level QB wheel.  Not particularly exciting either.  But we should at least bring one of them in this offseason.

[SmokinwithWilly]

5 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

The alternative is spinning the replacement level QB wheel.  Not particularly exciting either.  But we should at least bring one of them in this offseason.

We should have brought one in last season for no other reason than if we were to make a playoff run with an improved Bryce from last year, you dont throw that away with an ancient Andy Dalton who already showed he's not capable of more than taking snaps if Bryce were injured. 

Edited 2 hours ago by SmokinwithWilly

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

The alternative is spinning the replacement level QB wheel.  Not particularly exciting either.  But we should at least bring one of them in this offseason.

Well, we did try that for several years unsuccessfully, so I do think that may be impacting Tepper's decision making.

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Well, we did try that for several years unsuccessfully, so I do think that may be impacting Tepper's decision making.

Yea but you're not supposed to trade 2nd round picks for them or give them big contracts in FA lol.  But I guess we did a lot better on giving Baker a shot.  Hardly cost a thing.

Which makes you think.  If you could get a guy like Baker for next to nothing, why wouldn't you?

[HeelsPanthersCanes]

I love how the “OGs” boast of working at PFF means something (to him). 
 

I’ve been on this board for 20+ years, and it’s never not been a collection of dummies, smart asses, and whiny babies - including myself. But it’s good banter for the most part. 
 

If someone was truly a guru at football and was wasting their time spewing it here instead of turning it into millions of dollars running a team or coaching a position, that says more about them than any of the “idiots” on this board. 

[strato]

38 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's hard to lose a game with a 200+ yard RB.

Yeah 200 yards on the ground is a pretty good indication you are in the game all the way. 
We almost lost both though.

I have seen so much of this ‘damn people can’t be happy even when we win’ commenting, do they really believe we aren’t happy  for a win? 
There is the small picture of the week’s game and the big picture of the overall situation; some people can do both at once.

[strato]

10 minutes ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

I love how the “OGs” boast of working at PFF means something (to him). 
 

I’ve been on this board for 20+ years, and it’s never not been a collection of dummies, smart asses, and whiny babies - including myself. But it’s good banter for the most part. 
 

If someone was truly a guru at football and was wasting their time spewing it here instead of turning it into millions of dollars running a team or coaching a position, that says more about them than any of the “idiots” on this board. 

And all the while we have a pretty good consensus on who to draft and not draft. 
 

I picture the scene from Moneyball where the head scout gets fired. “You say you know, but you don’t Know” when I see some of these front office types. 

Edited 2 hours ago by strato

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Just saw this thread. Haven't read past the egotistical, inane comedy routine that is the OP. Thanks for the laughs, dude. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, if you can find a GOAT level QB willing to play at a discount because his supermodel wife is bringing in even more that's a sweet deal... and because he craves success due to being completely looked over in the draft and forever wants to prove everyone wrong due to that. The problem is that has proven so far to be a one of one situation.

Even with Brady factored in, The Patriots still built good teams. At least up till Belichick started screwing it up. 

I'd add though that the "superstar" formula, while it mostly centers around quarterbacks, isn't strictly limited to them. Best nkn-QB example is probably the Barry Sanders Lions.

They never had (or never spent) the money It would have taken to build the kind of OL that would have made Sanders even more productive than he already was.

[LinvilleGorge]

33 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Even with Brady factored in, The Patriots still built good teams. At least up till Belichick started screwing it up. 

I'd add though that the "superstar" formula, while it mostly centers around quarterbacks, isn't strictly limited to them. Best nkn-QB example is probably the Barry Sanders Lions.

They never had (or never spent) the money It would have taken to build the kind of OL that would have made Sanders even more productive than he already was.

Yeah, if you can build a dynasty you can get aging ring chasing vets to sign on at a discount. That's what floated the Patriots for years while Belichick drafted like Fitterer.

[fieryprophet]

2 hours ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

If someone was truly a guru at football and was wasting their time spewing it here instead of turning it into millions of dollars running a team or coaching a position, that says more about them than any of the “idiots” on this board. 

Making millions in the coaching/analysis side of football is a lot like making it as a band in the Spotify era, you need a hell of a lot of luck and to know a lot of the right people. I know way too many excellent assistant coaches who live week to week barely supporting their families even for big-name programs at the college or pro level. While I enjoyed my time involved in it, it got old fast, the crunch is real, and I moved on to less demanding and more profitable fields.

Edited 11 minutes ago by fieryprophet

[strato]

I’d say it is easier than making anything off Spotify. They are thieves.