Bryce's Achilles Heel Is Not What You Think It Is

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, TN05 said:

That's great, now show me how many turnovers and how much of either came in garbage time.

Bryce tried to turn it over but the jets decided to jet

[Shotgun]

2 minutes ago, Tbe said:

The score was 6-13. There was no garbage time in that game.

I think the entire game was garbage time. lol

[CarolinaSock]

Bryce's 2 "longest" passes today were a screen to Hubbard and a dump off to Dowdle. 

[Basbear]

Will he pass over 200 yards without late game pre-vent D?

I swear.....Im loving the RBs, TEs, WRs, and OL...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Edited October 19, 2025 by Basbear

[csx]

The best thing I can say about him today was no turnovers. 

[mrcompletely11]

47 minutes ago, fieryprophet said:

Yep, how poor of Bryce to lead this team to a win with a larger margin of victory than the Steelers, Buccaneers, and Broncos. Since so many of you would trade him instantly for Rodgers, Nix or Hurts then how do you explain that?

C'mon, bring out the mental gymnastics, clearly the only thing that matters is the QB, everything else is irrelevant right?

Say what?

[electro's horse]

14 minutes ago, csx said:

The best thing I can say about him today was no turnovers. 

Not for lack of trying 

[fieryprophet]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Say what?

Exactly, sounds hyperbolic and idiotic, doesn't it? That's what reading 80% of this board feels like.

[MRenshaw]

On 10/15/2025 at 8:37 PM, fieryprophet said:

Every player has faults, and many times they can be categorized neatly into obvious traits that make analysis pretty straight-forward. A running back who thrives in zone schemes where their vision and patience is rewarded may struggle when asked to play a physical, violent, north-south style. A quarterback who can make every throw under the sun may never grasp the schematic purpose of the plays he is being asked to run and therefore constantly makes the wrong decision or no decision even with players running free.

But the narrative for Bryce Young has almost consistently focused on his size and overall physicality in a league full of supermen, and how it places a hard limit on his ability to do things like shrug off blockers or throw tactical nuclear strikes from 80 yards out. Two seasons plus in hasn't put those concerns fully to rest, but if there is one underlining trait that could potentially derail Bryce's career, it's much more nebulous: his ability to recognize when a play is dead.

The proclivity for turnovers that has haunted Bryce through his career doesn't always have the same underlying reasons as most typical young quarterbacks: adjusting to the speed of play, the tightness of NFL throwing windows, being able to diagnose much more advanced coverages, understanding the playbook, etc. One consistent thread is a defining trait that is both a curse and a strength: his ability to make plays off script, which has carried over from his Alabama days. For every miracle escape and razor-margin throw downfield like the 4th down play vs the Dolphins, you seem to have an inexcusable dropped fumble without even being touched (also see Dolphins game.) And the genesis of both is his underlying aggressiveness to make something happen with every snap, sometimes even when the play itself is simply unsalvageable.

What often gets Young into trouble isn't an inability to execute a play, but his unwillingness to concede that the risk/reward ratio for a given decision simply isn't worth the attempt. There are few things that will drive a coach to putting a schematic leash on a player more quickly then when that player's outcomes become unpredictable, and even multiple miracle plays can be negated by a single colossal mistake. Where Bryce must find a balance is retaining the ability to conjure magic when needed, but to also keep his risk/reward instincts fully calibrated to what the team as a whole is comfortable with. No successful coach is entirely risk-averse, and many tend to be overly conservative in situations that decides the outcome of games, but "bad" Bryce sometimes emerges in situations where the only correct decision is to simply eat the ball and move on to the next play or next drive. If he can develop a better understanding of this flaw and work to overcome it without abandoning the traits that also make him special, he will take one step closer to becoming the player this franchise sacrificed so much for and redeeming that faith with the entire fanbase.

LOL! We have ourselves a funny one over here.
 

Edited November 10, 2025 by MRenshaw

[Ronnie Bass]

He obviously can't get signifigant velocity on throws beyond 12 yds. Quick game he's fine he can read leaverage and rip a stick route. But those 2 balls where you have to get air on it over the 2nd level but with pace he can't do it. He has to generate power from the ground up, he's still throwing off platform like Mahommes and he'll never have that arm. I think he knows whats open an can can actually get through progressions but he knows he doesn't have the velocity to throw that tight window ball or too a primary route with minimal separation, so he extends the play at times just so he can buy a easier throw or make the defense breakdown. Thats not sustainable.

 He's simply not a playoff QB, he's serviceable and he's a great character guy but he's not winning you a championship even with a loaded team sadly. Some guys are great college QBs but just don't fit in the pros i.e Wuerfful, White, Crouch, Bennett, Manziel etc. The NFL is a different beast when it comes to the cerebral side of things and theres a lot of inate skills that come into play.

[Jmac]

On 10/15/2025 at 8:37 PM, fieryprophet said:

Every player has faults, and many times they can be categorized neatly into obvious traits that make analysis pretty straight-forward. A running back who thrives in zone schemes where their vision and patience is rewarded may struggle when asked to play a physical, violent, north-south style. A quarterback who can make every throw under the sun may never grasp the schematic purpose of the plays he is being asked to run and therefore constantly makes the wrong decision or no decision even with players running free.

But the narrative for Bryce Young has almost consistently focused on his size and overall physicality in a league full of supermen, and how it places a hard limit on his ability to do things like shrug off blockers or throw tactical nuclear strikes from 80 yards out. Two seasons plus in hasn't put those concerns fully to rest, but if there is one underlining trait that could potentially derail Bryce's career, it's much more nebulous: his ability to recognize when a play is dead.

The proclivity for turnovers that has haunted Bryce through his career doesn't always have the same underlying reasons as most typical young quarterbacks: adjusting to the speed of play, the tightness of NFL throwing windows, being able to diagnose much more advanced coverages, understanding the playbook, etc. One consistent thread is a defining trait that is both a curse and a strength: his ability to make plays off script, which has carried over from his Alabama days. For every miracle escape and razor-margin throw downfield like the 4th down play vs the Dolphins, you seem to have an inexcusable dropped fumble without even being touched (also see Dolphins game.) And the genesis of both is his underlying aggressiveness to make something happen with every snap, sometimes even when the play itself is simply unsalvageable.

What often gets Young into trouble isn't an inability to execute a play, but his unwillingness to concede that the risk/reward ratio for a given decision simply isn't worth the attempt. There are few things that will drive a coach to putting a schematic leash on a player more quickly then when that player's outcomes become unpredictable, and even multiple miracle plays can be negated by a single colossal mistake. Where Bryce must find a balance is retaining the ability to conjure magic when needed, but to also keep his risk/reward instincts fully calibrated to what the team as a whole is comfortable with. No successful coach is entirely risk-averse, and many tend to be overly conservative in situations that decides the outcome of games, but "bad" Bryce sometimes emerges in situations where the only correct decision is to simply eat the ball and move on to the next play or next drive. If he can develop a better understanding of this flaw and work to overcome it without abandoning the traits that also make him special, he will take one step closer to becoming the player this franchise sacrificed so much for and redeeming that faith with the entire fanbase.

Bryce sucks........period 

[electro's horse]

Plays dead when Bryce gets the snap. 

[PghPanther]

Biggest issue is that he's 14 yrs old playing in a grown man's game. 

[LinvilleGorge]

On 10/17/2025 at 12:34 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep. That's why I've been saying that if Bryce continue to be an effective game manager I wouldn't be opposed to picking up his 5th year option to buy us more time. I wouldn't be thrilled about it but I'd understand it. I just wouldn't feel any pressing need to do anything right now because no one should be surprised if Bryce takes another slide when our RB doesn't play like prime Adrian Peterson.

Welp.