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Trade for a QB?

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mrcompletely11 Grand Master

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1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

Nope. There was honestly no plan to bring Bryce back 

Also Dalton looked even worse this preseason. He’s a 40 year old with 100 years of experience and he couldn’t move the ball against teams 2nd units… I honestly can’t believe they wasted cap space brining him back

Again going back to his signing thread, the best reasoning for resigning him for not 1 but 2 years was he knows the offense and the biggie he was a good mentor to Bryce.   Thats why.  So it was fuging stupid to do so and its going to be on full display Sunday 1 pm

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

You guys are aware that Dalton got injured last season and that is why Bryce returned, right? 

He kept the job because that was when Bryce started getting hot(well, by his standards anyway) and that time DC decided to ride the hot hand. 

 

His play deteriorated every week until that happened though.  The game logs tell the same story I remember watching.  He was ass.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaltAn00/gamelog/2024/

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Bryce Young is averging only 184 yards per game right now through his first 7 games 

& so if u get another Qb like Winston or Howell I just  can't imagine either one of them not only being better than Andy Dalton but Bryce Young also 

truth be known Andy Dalton is probably better than Bryce Young & will average more than 184 yards per game...just saying 

 

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1 minute ago, bandu said:

Bryce Young is averging only 184 yards per game right now through his first 7 games 

& so if u get another Qb like Winston or Howell I just  can't imagine either one of them not only being better than Andy Dalton but Bryce Young also 

truth be known Andy Dalton is probably better than Bryce Young & will average more than 184 yards per game...just saying 

 

Better at piling up yards but also far better at piling up TO's. That's why those guys are currently 3rd string QB's. It looks great when it's working and it looks really bad when it isn't. 

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1 minute ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

There’s better backup qb options, just gotta kick some tires, hell look what Joe Flacco went for in the same division 

Yeah but that was an abnormal situation. Flacco wasn't getting the results and wasn't going to be a part of their future. There isn't an equivalent situation that makes us better or makes sense for us. 

Especially not at a bargain bin price. You want to trade for a guy like Tua? Well....good luck with the price AND the contract. 

There is a dearth of quality starting QB's. That also means there aren't a bunch of them sitting on the bench elsewhere.

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I just don't see any point in getting your hopes up. If Dan Morgan were actually as concerned about the QB room as much as many fans here are he would have done literally anything more than the effort that was essentially a shrug this year and last year.

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19 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Better at piling up yards but also far better at piling up TO's. That's why those guys are currently 3rd string QB's. It looks great when it's working and it looks really bad when it isn't. 

when you are talking about the Panthers current Qbs & other teams backups it's like OK I don't really like any of these options at Qb but let me go ahead & pick the lesser of two evils .

&  Bryce Young has been a turnover machine throughout his NFL career & so has Wintson

 this situation at Qb should have been addressed way before now prior to the season .& any of these Qbs will be just as good if not better than Bryce Young is no big loss   ...just saying 

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15 minutes ago, bandu said:

when you are talking about the Panthers current Qbs & other teams backups it's like OK I don't really like any of these options at Qb but let me go ahead & pick the lesser of two evils .

&  Bryce Young has been a turnover machine throughout his NFL career & so has Wintson

 this situation at Qb should have been addressed way before now prior to the season .& any of these Qbs will be just as good if not better than Bryce Young is no big loss   ...just saying 

Bryce is definitely very TO prone but Winston is pretty wild. 1.62 TO's/GM in his NFL career to Bryce's 1.19.

I am just saying, it can actually get worse. Winston is that worse.

I agree, however, the offseason is the time to deal with this situation.

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18 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah but that was an abnormal situation. Flacco wasn't getting the results and wasn't going to be a part of their future. There isn't an equivalent situation that makes us better or makes sense for us. 

Especially not at a bargain bin price. You want to trade for a guy like Tua? Well....good luck with the price AND the contract. 

There is a dearth of quality starting QB's. That also means there aren't a bunch of them sitting on the bench elsewhere.

Oh naw I’m thinking more low level, Tua is def not worth trading for, unfortunately the guys that fit the bill are already playing games for the retrospective teams, Jacoby brisset, Carson wentz, Mac jones etc 

reality is the FO most likely isn’t looking at options that would potentially usurp young’s job, otherwise there would be more options 

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