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strato Grand Master

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1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

Andy Dalton is still a better, and more efficient operator of the offense than Prime Cam in every year except 2015. We got to watch Dalton and Cam come along together and Andy’s numbers almost always blew Cam’s out of the water. 
 

It isn’t 2024, and we shouldn’t have to see Andy play from 24 down by the second quarter. You also have the emergence of Dowdle, Tet is playing well, XL seems to play better with Andy, and Canales has hit his groove. 
 

I wouldn’t be surprised if Andy threw for 220 and Dowdle had another 150 yards of total offense. 

Not unreasonable. The OL and pass pro will be the key IMO. 

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1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

Dude, even if the Panthers go down 14, you don’t abandon the run game with Dowdle going against the Bills defense. 
 

Panthers aren’t getting a ton of national buzz right now but it’s not like the teams they have beaten are chumps. Shutting out the Falcons is massive, beating the Cowboys is not a small thing, going on a 27-7 run against the Dolphins isn’t nothing, going on a 19-0 run against the Cardinals with an opportunity to win it at the end isn’t nothing. I fully believe that the Panthers could be 5-2 right now if they don’t forget to play football in Arizona in the first quarter. 
 

The Bills are good, because of Josh Allen, period. He is all they have, and that’s very good but not good enough to beat good teams on the road. The media will blame him but I still think he’s the best QB in the NFL right now. Give him a Derrick Henry, give him an Andy Reid and all of those receivers, etc. and things would get absolutely insane. 

I will be highly shocked if we are not down by more than 14 in the first quarter.  We shall see!

 

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If there was ever a game to get behind that offensive line and the run the rock with Rico it's this game.  

Only one team has been worst than Buffalo at stopping the run this season and that's Miami and we saw what happened in that game with Dowdle.

Buffalo of course has one of the most dynamic offenses so the more time we can keep that offense off the field the better, sustaining drives will be crucial.

Atlanta had their way with Buffalo in their last game that score could have easily been 28-7 at the half.

With that said with an improved vertical passing attack and emphasis on the run game Carolina pulls the upset 24-17

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11 minutes ago, PanthersNCSU said:

Weirdly think there's a better chance we pull off the upset with Dalton. Canales might call some plays that he didn't trust Bryce with, and if we can get a halfway decent Dalton game (and run the hell out of the ball), I think we can stay in it. 

The Bills offense seems like hot garbage this year and then gets hot in spurts. Josh's scrambling is the biggest issue, if we can contain Cook. 

To the last part. Evero sucks at generating pressure unless he’s going up against a beat up OL like the Jets.

However.. he does do a good job of having the DL/LBs contain. Hes even mentioned that’s part of the reason that they struggle to rush the QBs because he doesn’t want guys moving out of containment.

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23 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Is their pass defense good because their rush defense is so bad though? People thought we had a good defense in 2023 because our pass defense was so good. Turns out teams just didn't pass on us because it was easier to just run all over us. 

Yardage based rankings are so full of holes. I do not trust them. So much chicken or egg comes into it. 
 

And when you get into the season, a team can be totally different than they were a month ago. Either direction, due to injuries or even simple improvement. 
 

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I really have no clue what to expect sunday.  To quote one of my favorite bands of all time, Operation Ivy "All I know is that I dont know".  We could win, hell we could win convincingly, we also could lose in blowout fashion.  We could be in a back and forth game with whoever has the ball last winning.  I legit HAVE NO CLUE.  This isnt the dominant bills teams of the past, Allen is still elite and can win any game by himself.  That said, heres my stab at looking at things.

Our defense is made to stop this kind of team.  Strong against the run, a great corner but meh talent around the field.  We've stopped prolific run offenses this season.  
Javonte Williams - Season low yards and ypa against us.

De'Von Achane - Season low yards and ypa against us

Breece hall - 3rd worst yards in a game

Fact of the matter is, we arent what we were last year, we are a good run defense and that lines up well against the bills, Stop the run. 

For once the lack of moving Jaycee might be a good thing, he will essentially lock down a side and without multiple real weapons thats fine.  Buffalo does not have an elite guy, theyve got a gaggle of average dudes.  Allen will stay away from Jaycee, it will be on Mike Jack and Chau Smith Wade do to their part and they will be matched with guys they can play at the level of.

On offense, we do what the bills are bad at.  We run the ball well, and they suck at stopping the run.  Rico and Chuba will need 30 carries.  Andy Dalton will need to be opportunistic.  My big fear is what we learned last year, Dalton can get overconfident and make bonehead throws.  Its this simple.  Run the ball, stop the run.  Dont turn the ball over.  If we do these 3 things, we will be in a position to win in the 4th quarter.  

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36 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

To the last part. Evero sucks at generating pressure unless he’s going up against a beat up OL like the Jets.

However.. he does do a good job of having the DL/LBs contain. Hes even mentioned that’s part of the reason that they struggle to rush the QBs because he doesn’t want guys moving out of containment.

Yeah. That seems a decent hope. But our coverage in the middle of the field, I don’t know what we can do about that. I think they can eat. DB could mess that up with a monster game especially against a statue, which unfortunately Allen is not. 

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17 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

I really have no clue what to expect sunday.  To quote one of my favorite bands of all time, Operation Ivy "All I know is that I dont know".  We could win, hell we could win convincingly, we also could lose in blowout fashion.  We could be in a back and forth game with whoever has the ball last winning.  I legit HAVE NO CLUE.  This isnt the dominant bills teams of the past, Allen is still elite and can win any game by himself.  That said, heres my stab at looking at things.

Our defense is made to stop this kind of team.  Strong against the run, a great corner but meh talent around the field.  We've stopped prolific run offenses this season.  
Javonte Williams - Season low yards and ypa against us.

De'Von Achane - Season low yards and ypa against us

Breece hall - 3rd worst yards in a game

Fact of the matter is, we arent what we were last year, we are a good run defense and that lines up well against the bills, Stop the run. 

For once the lack of moving Jaycee might be a good thing, he will essentially lock down a side and without multiple real weapons thats fine.  Buffalo does not have an elite guy, theyve got a gaggle of average dudes.  Allen will stay away from Jaycee, it will be on Mike Jack and Chau Smith Wade do to their part and they will be matched with guys they can play at the level of.

On offense, we do what the bills are bad at.  We run the ball well, and they suck at stopping the run.  Rico and Chuba will need 30 carries.  Andy Dalton will need to be opportunistic.  My big fear is what we learned last year, Dalton can get overconfident and make bonehead throws.  Its this simple.  Run the ball, stop the run.  Dont turn the ball over.  If we do these 3 things, we will be in a position to win in the 4th quarter.  

It takes some experience to know that you don’t know.
People that say that may not know but are more likely to make a good educated guess. 

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1 hour ago, PanthersNCSU said:

Weirdly think there's a better chance we pull off the upset with Dalton. Canales might call some plays that he didn't trust Bryce with, and if we can get a halfway decent Dalton game (and run the hell out of the ball), I think we can stay in it. 

The Bills offense seems like hot garbage this year and then gets hot in spurts. Josh's scrambling is the biggest issue, if we can contain Cook. 

I am gonna keep pushing back on the notion that there is some secret layer to the Canales playbook that he can't call because of Bryce.

Dalton is just more capable of making quick reads and getting the ball out quicker than Bryce has been so far. Dalton is also a little more of a gambler than Bryce.

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6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am gonna keep pushing back on the notion that there is soms secret layer to the Canales playbook that he can't call because of Bryce.

Dalton is just more capable of making quick reads and getting the ball out quicker than Bryce has been so far. Dalton is also a little more of a gambler than Bryce.

There’s no secret section of the playbook. No coach is going to spend a season and a half holding onto plays his QB can’t run. 

The one big area where Dalton is better, though, is play action from under center with his back to the defense. He’s been doing that since his Cincinnati days, and with surgeons of the running game, that part of our offense has become more important than ever.

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There’s no secret section of the playbook. No coach is going to spend a season and a half holding onto plays his QB can’t run. 

The one big area where Dalton is better, though, is play action from under center with his back to the defense. He’s been doing that since his Cincinnati days, and with surgeons of the running game, that part of our offense has become more important than ever.

He is much more decisive with the ball. He also is less suited for extending plays than Bryce. But he also has a little better pocket presence, as well. 

My prediction, assuming he starts, is that he will do a little better than Bryce has. I don't expect that to lead to a victory nor do I expect him to light the world on fire. 

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2 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

Dude, even if the Panthers go down 14, you don’t abandon the run game with Dowdle going against the Bills defense. 
 

Panthers aren’t getting a ton of national buzz right now but it’s not like the teams they have beaten are chumps. Shutting out the Falcons is massive, beating the Cowboys is not a small thing, going on a 27-7 run against the Dolphins isn’t nothing, going on a 19-0 run against the Cardinals with an opportunity to win it at the end isn’t nothing. I fully believe that the Panthers could be 5-2 right now if they don’t forget to play football in Arizona in the first quarter. 
 

The Bills are good, because of Josh Allen, period. He is all they have, and that’s very good but not good enough to beat good teams on the road. The media will blame him but I still think he’s the best QB in the NFL right now. Give him a Derrick Henry, give him an Andy Reid and all of those receivers, etc. and things would get absolutely insane. 

Dude... we looked like ass the 1st 3 quarters and came back against a prevent Cardinals defense that literally had their entire secondary get hurt in the game. That wasn't a we almost won kind of game - it was an Arizona almost pulled off the choke of the decade

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