Canales and Mike White

[rebelrouser]

19 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

You can't just throw a first round pick at a QB because you need a QB. 

It is pretty obvious that you should not draft a player that you do not like/believe in. We should be scouting qb's for the 2026 draft and have a plan though.  

[mrcompletely11]

2 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

This is glossed over so easily.  He took the Browns to the playoffs.  Is it any wonder that once he got to a competent organization he’s playing at an MVP level?

yeah the whole "dave turned Bakers career around" is a strange narrative

[mrcompletely11]

41 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Depends how they get to that 6-11 record. 

It wont get them fired but the fuse will be lit for year 3

[OldhamA]

15 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

It wont get them fired but the fuse will be lit for year 3

Depends if we continue to improve or not.

This as not a quick turn around. 

[Jackie Lee]

 

[ProcessBlue2]

33 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Depends if we continue to improve or not.

This as not a quick turn around. 

I think if we were 2-5 right now and finished 6-11 then that would be more understandable. But at this point.. 4-3 entering week 8. They have to at least finish 7-10 or it’s going to look like they fell apart. Finishing 7-10 still means we go 3-7 down the stretch. 

[frankw]

He's on his 4th team in 4 years. Ultimately he was available for a reason. Our FO had the opportunity to not back themselves into this corner. But the onus is now on Canales. I sure hope he's up to it.

[Jackie Lee]

Not sure why everyone is down on the guy, he's 5x better than Plumber and in equal situations can throw a better ball than Bryce or Dalton

[kungfoodude]

12 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Not sure why everyone is down on the guy, he's 5x better than Plumber and in equal situations can throw a better ball than Bryce or Dalton

I don't think it's down. We are largely just laughing, rightfully so, at anyone thinking this is more than a PS move or emergency backup.

[Jackie Lee]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think it's down. We are largely just laughing, rightfully so, at anyone thinking this is more than a PS move or emergency backup.

Well if Dalton goes down he's gonna play so I'm glad they upgraded from Plumber, and it's not impossible and it's happened before when a lesser known backup comes into a game after injury and steals the job. Just saying anything can happen, he stole Zach Wilsons job lol. 

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Well if Dalton goes down he's gonna play so I'm glad they upgraded from Plumber, and it's not impossible and it's happened before when a lesser known backup comes into a game after injury and steals the job. Just saying anything can happen, he stole Zach Wilsons job lol. 

I mean, White is certainly capable as losing a game as badly as Plummer, no doubt. Same with Hooker.

[strato]

I don’t think because you had some success against teams you are evenly matched with or maybe a little better than, you should get penalized for losing to better teams just because they fall at the back half of the schedule. 
A lot of people may think we are better than we really are. 
OTOH maybe we are better than I think we are. Maybe these other teams aren’t as good as we think either. 

[Gapanthersfan]

I just want to see a big guy with an NFL certified cannon arm suit up for the panthers again. To me, it will show that they are at least  trying to take the QB position in the direction it needs to go. 

 Will he throw picks? Yes. Probably a hell of a lot, but (for now) I’m strangely ok with that… for now. I at least need to see a dude that CAN make the throws with some semblance of accuracy. 

This is the time to see what the QB whisperer is made of. The offensive talent is there. It’s certainly better than most rookie/journeymen QBs will ever step in to. If he can get a random dude playing at a JAG level, then I might be sold. 

Andy could really surprise in the Buffalo game. He (for now) still has enough arm for Tet and XL to show what they’ve got, but we all know it’s only going to be good for 3-4 games, max. He has vet savvy, and that does account for a lot. He also has a full week of practice with all the snaps to prepare. 

My best case scenario going forward: Andy plays the next 2 games nobly (winning one would be a huge bonus) giving White a chance to learn some of the playbook and develop chemistry with the players. Serviceable Andy turns in to old man Andy in game 3 and White takes the field after halftime. 

A high ankle sprain (lol, sure it is) is an injury that can buy the team a LONG time for BY to ride the pine…. Maybe even IR. His peak trade value is now. Get what they can for this albatross. He’s now shown that he can be a mid level backup which does hold a significant value for the right team. 

Not even in my wildest dreams do I see White being anything more than a JAG, but that’s ok. JAGs with a big arm make great bridge QBs that at least won’t have your play makers stagnating.

Keeping BY under center is a 100% recipe for stagnating high ceiling (Tet/XL) dudes and/or not allowing them to take the next step in their development. Why even practice the good half of the playbook if the QB can’t make the throw? After a while, you’ve now got high ceiling guys who can only run a limited route tree. No thanks. 

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

I just want to see a big guy with an NFL certified cannon arm suit up for the panthers again. To me, it will show that they are at least  trying to take the QB position in the direction it needs to go. 

 Will he throw picks? Yes. Probably a hell of a lot, but (for now) I’m strangely ok with that… for now. I at least need to see a dude that CAN make the throws with some semblance of accuracy. 

This is the time to see what the QB whisperer is made of. The offensive talent is there. It’s certainly better than most rookie/journeymen QBs will ever step in to. If he can get a random dude playing at a JAG level, then I might be sold. 

Andy could really surprise in the Buffalo game. He (for now) still has enough arm for Tet and XL to show what they’ve got, but we all know it’s only going to be good for 3-4 games, max. He has vet savvy, and that does account for a lot. He also has a full week of practice with all the snaps to prepare. 

My best case scenario going forward: Andy plays the next 2 games nobly (winning one would be a huge bonus) giving White a chance to learn some of the playbook and develop chemistry with the players. Serviceable Andy turns in to old man Andy in game 3 and White takes the field after halftime. 

A high ankle sprain (lol, sure it is) is an injury that can buy the team a LONG time for BY to ride the pine…. Maybe even IR. His peak trade value is now. Get what they can for this albatross. He’s now shown that he can be a mid level backup which does hold a significant value for the right team. 

Not even in my wildest dreams do I see White being anything more than a JAG, but that’s ok. JAGs with a big arm make great bridge QBs that at least won’t have your play makers stagnating.

Keeping BY under center is a 100% recipe for stagnating high ceiling (Tet/XL) dudes and/or not allowing them to take the next step in their development. Why even practice the good half of the playbook if the QB can’t make the throw? After a while, you’ve now got high ceiling guys who can only run a limited route tree. No thanks.