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strato Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Tr3ach said:

It basically means the people who say any stats that show Bryce as decent are bogus are now going to say this stat means we are bad no matter what our record ends up being.

Bro we have eyes. They saw Sunday and they saw just one week before. 
GWD is a weak stat to base a player grade on it should really be a team thing. 
But at any rate we can all see how the QB plays each week. I don’t know why we even need stats at all to be honest. At least for these evaluation purposes. I mean, in GWD you have to look under the hood to make sure you aren’t getting sold a bill of goods. 
They are fine for keeping records of yards and completions and points given and allowed and fumbles and so on. 
For defense yardage is a bad indicator of rank for instance.  You can build a nice looking house of cards on yards allowed; if you play from ahead you are likely to give up more air yards than rushing. The farther ahead, the more air yards. For one instance. So what it it telling you? Not that you have a bad pass d all the time. 

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1 hour ago, The Lobo said:

Oh yes I remember this now, in 2015 Seahawks fans were all going on and on about their DVOA dominating ours before our playoff matchup. In that case it didn’t work out in their favor. Do you know how accurate these are through the years?

It’s not meant to be predictive model, but there are a lot of people that take it into account.

its value to me lies in its universality and how you can compare different teams across different years.

and on a long enough timeline, everything regresses to the mean. That’s statistics. 
 

 

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Yeah another outlet talking about regression and how overall the panthers passing offense is anemic

Though the Panthers’ pass game went berserk in Week 11 against a Falcons defense that has apparently given up on the 2025 season, they didn’t produce a ton of air yards. Their 293 air yards ranks 12th on the week. It was well above their season average but likely more an illusion than a sign of things to come. Carolina has the league’s second lowest pass rate over expected this season. Since Week 5 they are a rather stunning nine percent below their expected pass rate, by far the lowest in the NFL. I don’t think any Carolina pass catchers are reliable outside of Tetairoa McMillan. I’m probably not breaking any news there.

https://www.nbcsports.com/fantasy/football/news/bryce-young-chris-olave-chase-brown-headline-week-12s-regression-files

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Hey if they finish 2nd in the division and get that second place schedule next year, might be some regression from the already below average. 
God forbid they play a 1st place schedule next year lol. It will be a fun few weeks here if that happens but man we will pay for it big time. 

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4 hours ago, The Lobo said:

I mean if you look at Bryce’s stats before last week, he was ranked damn near the bottom of the league in every category so you can’t fault people for thinking anything positive is bogus.

I’ve heard several analyst say they don’t know how to rank the panthers because we are a confusing team.
One week we look like complete dog poo the next we win 30-0. Sure we beat a horrible jets team, but what was it, 13-6 or something like that? Beat the pack, but how good are they? They lost to us and the Browns and tied with Dallas, are they frauds? Would we have beat the bills with Bryce, I doubt it. Barely beat a 3-5 falcons team in OT and those seem to be Bryce’s best games. To me, the jury is still out and I’m optimistic, we beat SF and Bryce plays will il start to really believe. 

I dont think Bryce is the answer either.  Its just interesting that the people who always knocked any good Bryce metrics as metrics dont matter are the ones now pushing some of the least black and white metrics in dvoa.

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18 hours ago, Tr3ach said:

I dont think Bryce is the answer either.  Its just interesting that the people who always knocked any good Bryce metrics as metrics dont matter are the ones now pushing some of the least black and white metrics in dvoa.

Bryce had good metrics? I think the majority of us missed those. Dude is bottom third in damn near every category that matters since entering the league.

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Bryce Young is NOT our future!! He constantly makes poor judgement calls. Look at tonight. He could have easily walked that TD in. Let’s also not forget, he is just not physically built for the QB position. I’m tired of the argument that he needs to develop!!! Common man!!! Just because the coach thinks he’s a nice guy doesn’t win us football games! The players don’t respond to Bryce they protect Bryce like a weak little brother!! Common folks let’s stop making excuses!!! My money for tickets can’t stand it !!!!!

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On 11/23/2025 at 9:45 AM, PootieNunu said:

Bryce had good metrics? I think the majority of us missed those. Dude is bottom third in damn near every category that matters since entering the league.

Yeah actually he’s really good at winning games by 3 we should win by 20 and losing games by 30 we should lose by 7 so do some research, bud.

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42 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Yeah actually he’s really good at winning games by 3 we should win by 20 and losing games by 30 we should lose by 7 so do some research, bud.

Bryce is really good at making games competitive. Mainly games we should win easily, but also games against the Atlanta Falcons (and apparently the Packers).

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I have no confidence in Young. At his point I'm ready to draft another QB. A great game here and there is not enough. Clean house. Get rid of Morgan, the coaching staff, and especially Bryce Young. It's not working obviously. 

If you have some emotional attachment to Young, then congratulations. I don't. I'm sick of watching him play.   

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