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15 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

That would be ideal but i doubt he or his agent go for that

I agree, if he wanted to play for like 20-25 i'd go for it but anymore than that would hamstring us too much. You can win with him, not because of him. Need that extra $ for supporting cast. tying 40mil plus on Bryce i fear wouldnt go well.

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1 hour ago, PappyMay said:

I agree, if he wanted to play for like 20-25 i'd go for it but anymore than that would hamstring us too much. You can win with him, not because of him. Need that extra $ for supporting cast. tying 40mil plus on Bryce i fear wouldnt go well.

paying 20-25 million per year for bryce young is complete insanity

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1 hour ago, PappyMay said:

I agree, if he wanted to play for like 20-25 i'd go for it but anymore than that would hamstring us too much. You can win with him, not because of him. Need that extra $ for supporting cast. tying 40mil plus on Bryce i fear wouldnt go well.

Gotta sign Icky too. Top LT salaries in the NFL right now at about 28m AAV so you figure he's going to want to be somewhere in that range, plus we just put a 2 year on Moton at 22AAV, Hunt's cap hit of 24M (dead cap of 26m if we cut him), and Lewis at 16.75m (7.5m dead cap if we cut him). 

That's a lot of beef in front of Bryce or whoever is at QB. I don't see how we do a big extension and keep Icky. I don't see Bryce's agent letting him play the last year of his rookie contract with no extension or 5th year guarantee. 

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37 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

paying 20-25 million per year for bryce young is complete insanity

Would you rather pay him 60 million? I choose the lesser of the two if he's staying another year, which he will. Get ready for Russell Wilson as your new backup. Pray they draft someone to go along with that nightmare in the making. 

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2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Would you rather pay him 60 million? I choose the lesser of the two if he's staying another year, which he will. Get ready for Russell Wilson as your new backup. Pray they draft someone to go along with that nightmare in the making. 

Are you saying if they pick up his 5th year? That'd be a horrible development. I'd rather cut his ass the second the season ends. 

I have a premonition that he's going to be traded to SF for McCorkle after the season. 

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3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Would you rather pay him 60 million? I choose the lesser of the two if he's staying another year, which he will. Get ready for Russell Wilson as your new backup. Pray they draft someone to go along with that nightmare in the making. 

hes going to make 30 with the 5th if its picked up.  No way he signs a deal that is less then that.  With the rate of contracts if he gets an extension its going to be HUGE and the huddle sans a couple of posters are going to riot

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1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

Are you saying if they pick up his 5th year? That'd be a horrible development. I'd rather cut his ass the second the season ends. 

I have a premonition that he's going to be traded to SF for McCorkle after the season. 

Im saying short of a trade they will pick up his option. Do I want that? No, not as a starter. But it's not what I want that decides the course going forward. Im trying to predict what the team does so I can determine my level of interest next year. 

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6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

hes going to make 30 with the 5th if its picked up.  No way he signs a deal that is less then that.  With the rate of contracts if he gets an extension its going to be HUGE and the huddle sans a couple of posters are going to riot

I would be shocked if they signed him to an extension based on the production he's shown so far. My guess is they will let it play out until he makes a stink about a long-term contract and will trade or cut him then. I highly doubt they can find a serious trade partner for him. Probably will be peanuts. 

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1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

I would be shocked if they signed him to an extension based on the production he's shown so far. My guess is they will let it play out until he makes a stink about a long-term contract and will trade or cut him then. I highly doubt they can find a serious trade partner for him. Probably will be peanuts. 

picking up the 5th literally ties him here for 2 more years because its going to cost 30+ for the 5th that they are signing up for.  Any sane franchise would pass.  It just doesnt make any sense especially considering Icky is due and 2 years is an eternity for coaches and front office.   

 

Like I said last night, the clear option to me is to simply tell bryce we are not picking up your 5th, you are playing on your 4th, make us regret it and by the way we are drafting a guy and bringing in another vet.  If you dont like it kick rocks

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4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

picking up the 5th literally ties him here for 2 more years because its going to cost 30+ for the 5th that they are signing up for.  Any sane franchise would pass.  It just doesnt make any sense especially considering Icky is due and 2 years is an eternity for coaches and front office.   

 

Like I said last night, the clear option to me is to simply tell bryce we are not picking up your 5th, you are playing on your 4th, make us regret it and by the way we are drafting a guy and bringing in another vet.  If you dont like it kick rocks

That's where I see it too unless the last 8 games are miraculous and he leads a deep playoff run on his shoulders. And I still want a serious backup regardless. 

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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

picking up the 5th literally ties him here for 2 more years because its going to cost 30+ for the 5th that they are signing up for.  Any sane franchise would pass.  It just doesnt make any sense especially considering Icky is due and 2 years is an eternity for coaches and front office.   

 

Like I said last night, the clear option to me is to simply tell bryce we are not picking up your 5th, you are playing on your 4th, make us regret it and by the way we are drafting a guy and bringing in another vet.  If you dont like it kick rocks

Im not sure they will use those exact words but the point will be the same. He will be on the roster 1 more season either way. I just hope they can find a better starter. It shouldn't be that hard.  But looking at the available vets it just might be. They've painted themselves into a corner with the qb position. 

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1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

Would you rather pay him 60 million? I choose the lesser of the two if he's staying another year, which he will. Get ready for Russell Wilson as your new backup. Pray they draft someone to go along with that nightmare in the making. 

or…..you just move on from him.  You don’t get the team deeper into an already clear mistake. Which a lot of teams have recently done with QBs that don’t have it. 

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1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

Im saying short of a trade they will pick up his option. 

i don't agree with that. they'll make the decision immediately after the season ends so bryce's can either request a release or find a team that wants to trade for him. 

League year starts march 11th, deadline for 5th year option will be may 1st. 

there is no way they're going to pick up another year of this after the historically bad poo he's putting out on the field. Bryce might be beta enough that he chooses to play out the 4th year without any guarantees but even then they have to bring in someone to challenge him/beat him in camp. 

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