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SmokinwithWilly Grand Master

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18 minutes ago, CRA said:

Nothing you can do really.  And we can thank Dan Morgan for that. 

Bryce, Dan Morgan, Jim Caldwell, Dom Capers, all need to leave Carolina. 

Personally, I think the smart play is to just get rid of Canales too.  He isn’t a good OC.   Average.  He won’t bring in someone to be our OC.  You need a gambling playmaker in that sort of O.  Which won’t make it good for a rookie unless you get someone that got some special magic to them. 

This is David Tepper. And if Dan Morgan ever wants to have another job after he's fired in Carolina he's going to have to say it, NDA or not. 

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42 minutes ago, Jmac said:

I will not say his name. Another shat the bed performance by the un-nameable one. Beaten in all stats by a second string QB. It's just embarrassing at this point. New Orleans just drew up the gameplan to beat us for all to see.  I wrote last week that 150 yards is the best that can be expected from QB 1 ,at his best.

Can't trade at this point. Find a FA if possible? Some will say that anyone would be as bad as QB 1. Hard to be worse then he is. What the fug is the answer. Ride the train untill 2026? I can't watch QB 1 anymore without throwing something through the T.V screen.

What to do?   This front office should start reading the huddle for starters 

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2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

This is David Tepper. And if Dan Morgan ever wants to have another job after he's fired in Carolina he's going to have to say it, NDA or not. 

There is ZERO evidence David Tepper digs into his mistakes and refuses to move on.  A billion examples of him being the opposite. People have have built this Bryce Young argument as a Tepper thing that doesn’t jive.  Te

most logical argument IMO is team Fitterer ultimately sold Tepper on Bryce.  That was the reported split.  GM offense and Frank.  Tepper side with the GM offense.   We got Bryce. 

But the Fitterer crew is still here.  
 

 

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

There is ZERO evidence David Tepper digs into his mistakes and refuses to move on.  A billion examples of him being the opposite. People have have built this Bryce Young argument as a Tepper thing that doesn’t jive.  Te

most logical argument IMO is team Fitterer ultimately sold Tepper on Bryce.  That was the reported split.  GM offense and Frank.  Tepper side with the GM offense.   We got Bryce. 

But the Fitterer crew is still here.  
 

 

If Dan had the green light to improve QB and didn’t then he needs to go.

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Pick up a decent vet in free agency and you draft a guy somewhere in 2026, doesn't have to be R1. Have both of them  compete with Bryce  for the starting QB spot next off-season.

This about all you can do. We already won too many games to draft Mendoza or Ty Simpson , and I'm not the best fan of them anyway from what I've seen. 

Right now at 16 you're looking at  LaNorris Sellers, John  Mateer, and Garrett Nussmier . To be honest I wouldnt mind taking one of them, even if Im not totally convicted. Especially in R2. 

 

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Guys, no offense but it is way past time to let these fantasies of Newton coming back to save us go. 

We went that route once already. It got us a single win in a game where he was backing up PJ Walker. All five games he started, we lost, and he was even benched in one.

That...was four years ago.

It's... not... happening.

The Newton era is over. Keep the good memories you have of it...and move on.

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      Reasonable. I mean I didn’t see a clear path to relief this season myself. As I have typed already, I think the QB FA class is more interesting next season and that draft is supposed to be stacked as well. There just weren’t many options this year.  When you have Tepper to contend with you have to tread lightly around this unless you are 100% certain and willIng to stake your job on it.   There were a couple of outings that helped Bryce a lot in terms of  thinking maybe he can do this, and if you are a supporter you are giving them a lot of weight. You are likely to think just get him some more help and he can do that every week. Which I think Tepper falls into that category.  And the playoffs, division champs, regardless of the way I see that, the supporters will also give that a lot of weight.    And the big one, the atmosphere In BOA for that WC game, Tepper had to be soiling himself over that. If you pulled Bryce out right now you had better be right and your new guy had better make the playoffs and look good doing it or you will be gone and your chance to build your old team back into respectability will be gone too.  So here we have Pickett on a one year deal, and Grier and King. I understand it.  
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