Bryce Young now leads the NFL in game-winning drives since his debut

[JawnyBlaze]

This is one of the biggest bullshit stats in the game. 

[CRA]

56 minutes ago, TN05 said:

Jake Delhomme had 7 game winning drives in 2003 and we won 11 out of 16 games.

By this logic, game-winning drives prove Jake was a bad QB because we trailed in the 4th quarter in 12 out of 16 games.

Bryce Young has gone into the 4th quarter losing….basically his entire career. 3 seasons of this. 38 game stretch. 

in no way shape or form, does that sync up with a season of the 03 Cardiac Cats.  And weren’t trailing going into the 4th in all those games lol. We played in 4 OT games that year for example, we were winning going into the 4th in 3 of the 4.  Jake didn’t have us sucking every game so that every game of his existence presented such a technicality.  Nor was anyone crediting Jake Delhomme as the king of GWDs.  The team was credited for winning tightly contested games.  It’s why it was not Comeback Jake but the Cardiac Cats 

 

[strato]

Okay I see what I missed. He has 12 wins not 10. 

Stats…. Garbage in, garbage out. There should be a way to measure the winning drives against the fail to win drives. But there isn’t.
A way to identify the truly ‘heroic’ putting the team on your back (and your WR’s backs), and separate it from the ‘well he was on the field and took the snaps’ type stuff. But there isn’t. 

Technically a QB can handoff 5 times and get into FG range and the kicker wins it, but the QB has a GWD.
And that counts the same as if he did the 2 minute drill with no timeouts left and threw the team 60 plus yards into the winning TD or FG. 

Bullshit stat. 

Edited 2 hours ago by strato

[Packersfan]

2 minutes ago, strato said:

Okay I see what I missed. He has 12 wins not 10. 

Stats…. Garbage in, garbage out. There should be a way to measure the winning drives against the fail to win drives. But there isn’t.
A way to identify the truly ‘heroic’ putting the team on your back (and your WR’s backs), and separate it from the ‘well he was on the field and took the snaps’ type stuff. But there isn’t. 

Technically a QB can handoff 5 times and get into FG range and the kicker wins it, but the QB has a GWD.
And that counts the same as if he did the 2 minute drill with no timeouts left and threw the team 60 plus yards into the winning TD or FG. 

Bullshit stat. 

I think he has more than Love.

[strato]

1 hour ago, Packersfan said:

I think he has more than Love.

I mean, the point is it is a flawed statistic that is just some catch all for whatever. 
It doesn’t differentiate between truly bad ass performance and you happened to be there and handed the ball off type of performance. 
It is the same for every player so fair in that sense, but without going into detail of how they qualified for the stat you are just looking at a very broad descriptor. 
 

I don’t know about you but until I looked up the the qualifiers and understood that, I had this picture in my head of the QB that leads his team down the field like a boss, against the clock, and passes the team to a last minute or two come from behind win.  

But is not always the case, not close.

If say, your defense gets a turnover in enemy territory in the 4th quarter and you hand it off to the running back a couple of times, and your team kicks a FG for the deciding score, you get a GWD. Counting the same as the former scenario of the last minute against the clock do or die hurry up drill executed to perfection. 
 

Unless you go look at each individual drive chart that earned a GWD, you can’t tell which it was. 

Edited 1 hour ago by strato

[ForJimmy]

He does seem to have a clutch gene. Had it in college too and I hated it lol. 

[CRA]

8 minutes ago, strato said:

I mean, the point is it is a flawed statistic that is just some catch all for whatever. 
It doesn’t differentiate between truly bad ass performance and you happened to be there and handed the ball off type of performance. 
It is the same for every player so fair in that sense, but without going into detail of how they qualified for the stat you are just looking at a very broad descriptor. 
 

I don’t know about you but until I looked up the the qualifiers and understood that, I had this picture in my head of the QB that leads his team down the field like a boss, against the clock, and passes the team to a last minute or two come from behind win.  

But is not always the case, not close.

If say, your defense gets a turnover in enemy territory in the 4th quarter and you hand it off to the running back a couple of times, and your team kicks a FG for the deciding score, you get a GWD. Counting the same as the former scenario of the last minute against the clock do or die hurry up drill executed to perfection. 
 

Unless you go look at each individual drive chart that earned a GWD, you can’t tell which it was. 

2 of them don’t feature Bryce even attempting a pass on the “GWD”

[ForJimmy]

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/gwd_career.htm
 

Look at all of these losers with their teams  trailing in the 4th….

[TLGPanthersFan]

One of the most pointless, stupid stats ever. 

[CRA]

17 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/gwd_career.htm
 

Look at all of these losers with their teams  trailing in the 4th….

87% of the time when a Bryce Young team take the field…..they are losing at the half.   How many of those dudes listed you think lived in a similar world as that.  

There is a reason almost every Panther win gets logged as a GWD.   Dude only has 12 wins to his name.  

2025, it’s GWD.  Last year it was PFF best deep passer week X off a single completion.  Both boasts really aren’t what they appear

[CPF4LIFE]

3 hours ago, strato said:

There is definitely something fishy about this. I mean his win total is 10 games in 3 seasons.  If I counted correctly.  The only ten games we won, he gets a GWD every time? And wait a mi Ute how could he have one vs the Jets when Dalton finished the game? 

When other guys have 30 wins in 3 years and don’t have that near that many? That is a bullshit stat in some way. 

It means he has yet to lead his team to a convincing win playing the way he did yesterday. When we beat ATL earlier he didn't do much and the other games he has put us in the hole to comeback and win or pulled out a score at the end of a defense game which is normally also ugly football...so yeah that is something to highlight.

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

87% of the time when a Bryce Young team take the field…..they are losing at the half.   How many of those dudes listed you think lived in a similar world as that.  

There is a reason almost every Panther win gets logged as a GWD.   Dude only has 12 wins to his name.  

2025, it’s GWD.  Last year it was PFF best deep passer week X off a single completion.  Both boasts really aren’t what they appear

We can give him compliments with the many critiques. When the game is on the line he can be clutch. You are mocking GWDs so go comb through that list. I’ve never seen someone jump on the defense so quickly when a player does something good. He actually had a good game. Let’s just enjoy and hope it continues! Our team has been bad. I think we are what? 1-6 when Bryce doesn’t start?

[TN05]

6 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

We can give him compliments with the many critiques. When the game is on the line he can be clutch. You are mocking GWDs so go comb through that list. I’ve never seen someone jump on the defense so quickly when a player does something good. He actually had a good game. Let’s just enjoy and hope it continues! Our team has been bad. I think we are what? 1-6 when Bryce doesn’t start?

This forum would not have survived 2003, I can say that. They would have called for Delhomme's benching.

[mav1234]

I guess it's nice he leads the NFL in some kind of statistical category but this one is basically meaningless in context.