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ESPN’s Benjamin Solak on Panthers LT

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1 minute ago, rmoneyg35 said:

Yeah I’ve seen it. It scares me cause I hate investing a lot of money in a player. Too many variables, from injuries to them getting the bag and not caring anymore.

With Motons deal (stupid), Hunt, Lewis and Mayes and Icky upcoming our line is going to be the most expensive again in the nfl.   Its going to be an interesting snap shot if this type of team building works. 

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3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

With Motons deal (stupid), Hunt, Lewis and Mayes and Icky upcoming our line is going to be the most expensive again in the nfl.   Its going to be an interesting snap shot if this type of team building works. 

Very much so, IMO it's going to be a must for Morgan to hit it big in the next 2 drafts.  I think if he can fill the roster with good offensive linemen, we can afford to lose Lewis and Hunt down the line.  Icky will be a cornerstone, we need to keep Mays and Christensen and find a new RT in the draft to replace Moton when his contract is up. 

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1 minute ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Very much so, IMO it's going to be a must for Morgan to hit it big in the next 2 drafts.  I think if he can fill the roster with good offensive linemen, we can afford to lose Lewis and Hunt down the line.  Icky will be a cornerstone, we need to keep Mays and Christensen and find a new RT in the draft to replace Moton when his contract is up. 

I cannot remember about Lewis but I am sure Hunt is here for 3 more years regardless because of the structure of the contract.  Ill look it up my meeting

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6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I cannot remember about Lewis but I am sure Hunt is here for 3 more years regardless because of the structure of the contract.  Ill look it up my meeting

I think Hunt has an out after next year so we need to draft a RG to learn under him.  

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32 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Very much so, IMO it's going to be a must for Morgan to hit it big in the next 2 drafts.  I think if he can fill the roster with good offensive linemen, we can afford to lose Lewis and Hunt down the line.  Icky will be a cornerstone, we need to keep Mays and Christensen and find a new RT in the draft to replace Moton when his contract is up. 

You have to restock somehow. And you can’t pay everybody. By the time the WRs and QB are due for the big money you need to have a way figured that the OL can have some rookie contracts to offset that. 

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18 minutes ago, strato said:

You have to restock somehow. And you can’t pay everybody. By the time the WRs and QB are due for the big money you need to have a way figured that the OL can have some rookie contracts to offset that. 

Like I said in another post yesterday, the handling of the offensive line by Fitterer and mostly Morgan has been crazy. We've spent way too much money(Lewis and Hunt) to keep Bryce upright instead of using our picks in the 2nd round on JPJ and Frazier. Could have kept an injured Corbett at guard, Brady at swing, and still taken Maye as a backup, sorry Zavala. We wouldn't have taken XL, but XL hasn't been as advertised anyway, and Brooks hasn't contributed anything.

Moton's extension with it's signing bonus made him uncutable. Icky's contract was due at the same time Bryce's 3rd year ended, and we all know it's extension or 5th year, and if we're going to do a 5th year, he's going to want the extension. 

To me the whole thing is just ridiculous. Right now, depending on if Tepper decides to keep Bryce, it feels like we're going to have to choose between Icky and a Bryce extension. Maybe he plays on the 5th year, but I think he'll want the big money guarantee. 

JMO, but if you took a look at how the contracts could potentially fall, the writing was on the wall that this could be a cash flow nightmare. Too many contract guarantees, not enough rookie contracts to offset the upcoming paydays. 

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      Like I said in another post yesterday, the handling of the offensive line by Fitterer and mostly Morgan has been crazy. We've spent way too much money(Lewis and Hunt) to keep Bryce upright instead of using our picks in the 2nd round on JPJ and Frazier. Could have kept an injured Corbett at guard, Brady at swing, and still taken Maye as a backup, sorry Zavala. We wouldn't have taken XL, but XL hasn't been as advertised anyway, and Brooks hasn't contributed anything. Moton's extension with it's signing bonus made him uncutable. Icky's contract was due at the same time Bryce's 3rd year ended, and we all know it's extension or 5th year, and if we're going to do a 5th year, he's going to want the extension.  To me the whole thing is just ridiculous. Right now, depending on if Tepper decides to keep Bryce, it feels like we're going to have to choose between Icky and a Bryce extension. Maybe he plays on the 5th year, but I think he'll want the big money guarantee.  JMO, but if you took a look at how the contracts could potentially fall, the writing was on the wall that this could be a cash flow nightmare. Too many contract guarantees, not enough rookie contracts to offset the upcoming paydays. 
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