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Week 13: Other NFL Games


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6 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

WR and Edge need to be top priority this offseason. 

I really like the Cowboys chances if they get into the playoffs. Jerry Jones really lucked out. Quinnen, Pickens and a 1st rounder while losing Parsons is a hell of a deal

Philly has Brown and Smith. Dallas has Pickens and Lamb. Rams with Adams and Puka. During a time when passing is down in the league having 2 number 1’s is important. Pass catchers and being able to generate QB pressure. We have the complete opposite. 

TMac and Scourton are a nice start but they need running mates. Proven running mates if we’re going to compete next year 

The QB room isn't a top priority? Well that's interesting.

Without looking can anyone name the receivers Joe Burrow threw two touchdown passes to against the Ravens?

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Just now, *FreeFua* said:

Good lord give it a rest or learn ball

You’re not finding another Joe burrow 

We don't need "another Joe Burrow" just to field a competent passing attack.

And BTW while you're busy slurping the Cowboys just remember that team and Dak lost to Bryce Young and the Panthers.

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7 minutes ago, frankw said:

We don't need "another Joe Burrow" just to field a competent passing attack.

And BTW while you're busy slurping the Cowboys just remember that team and Dak lost to Bryce Young and the Panthers.

I’m all for bringing a QB in but who? The FA list is ass. The draft class isn’t great

I’d take a flier on Trey Lance and if available in 4th someone like Leavitt or Mateer?

I never wanted Dalton back especially at the contract Dan gave him. He’s utterly useless on the field and his cap hit isn’t nothing. He provides nothing. 

There’s a lot of bad QB play this year and passing is down. Guys worth trading for are most likely not going to get traded. 

As much as many of you don’t want to hear it our best option is to decline the 5th year option. Give Bryce 2026 while we have him under contract. Then in 2027 either sign Bryce (tag would be an option. Don’t repeat the Darnold mistake) or draft another QB and do it all again

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1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

WR and Edge need to be top priority this offseason. 

I really like the Cowboys chances if they get into the playoffs. Jerry Jones really lucked out. Quinnen, Pickens and a 1st rounder while losing Parsons is a hell of a deal

Philly has Brown and Smith. Dallas has Pickens and Lamb. Rams with Adams and Puka. During a time when passing is down in the league having 2 number 1’s is important. Pass catchers and being able to generate QB pressure. We have the complete opposite. 

TMac and Scourton are a nice start but they need running mates. Proven running mates if we’re going to compete next year 

EDGE above all other needs, IMO. In theory, the upcoming free agency market is pretty loaded with capable WR guys. Not star players but players that can be instantly impactful.

Hopefully we can address EDGE in the draft.

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51 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

I’m all for bringing a QB in but who? The FA list is ass. The draft class isn’t great

I’d take a flier on Trey Lance and if available in 4th someone like Leavitt or Mateer?

I never wanted Dalton back especially at the contract Dan gave him. He’s utterly useless on the field and his cap hit isn’t nothing. He provides nothing. 

There’s a lot of bad QB play this year and passing is down. Guys worth trading for are most likely not going to get traded. 

As much as many of you don’t want to hear it our best option is to decline the 5th year option. Give Bryce 2026 while we have him under contract. Then in 2027 either sign Bryce (tag would be an option. Don’t repeat the Darnold mistake) or draft another QB and do it all again

How does anything improve bringing Bryce back? 
You think he can get better? He has had three years and is pretty much below sea level with the annual Falcon bump. 
 

What is there for him to improve, that he has shown he can improve? Something he can control. 

What I usually hear is improve the people around him, and if that is the case I say we could do that with a better QB. 

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1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

I’m all for bringing a QB in but who? The FA list is ass. The draft class isn’t great

I’d take a flier on Trey Lance and if available in 4th someone like Leavitt or Mateer?

I never wanted Dalton back especially at the contract Dan gave him. He’s utterly useless on the field and his cap hit isn’t nothing. He provides nothing. 

There’s a lot of bad QB play this year and passing is down. Guys worth trading for are most likely not going to get traded. 

As much as many of you don’t want to hear it our best option is to decline the 5th year option. Give Bryce 2026 while we have him under contract. Then in 2027 either sign Bryce (tag would be an option. Don’t repeat the Darnold mistake) or draft another QB and do it all again

besides justin fields i am not sure there is a worse qb than byoung in the entire nfl would rather see anyone else play.  but if i could pic mac jones.  sam howell or texans backup. or joe burrow  then 1 or 2 rookie qbs 

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31 minutes ago, fanpanther said:

besides justin fields i am not sure there is a worse qb than byoung in the entire nfl would rather see anyone else play.  but if i could pic mac jones.  sam howell or texans backup. or joe burrow  then 1 or 2 rookie qbs 

😂 I'll just take myself a Joe Burrow and a couple of rookie QBs, please

I agree with you though, we basically can upgrade QB with FAR more options than we could realistically downgrade QB, lol. I'm in favor of drafting one *but not reaching* and bringing in a vet and another developmental guy.

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1 hour ago, fanpanther said:

besides justin fields i am not sure there is a worse qb than byoung in the entire nfl would rather see anyone else play.  but if i could pic mac jones.  sam howell or texans backup. or joe burrow  then 1 or 2 rookie qbs 

Dillon Gabriel and JJ McCarthy. Somehow they have managed to be worse than Bryce.

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

EDGE above all other needs, IMO. In theory, the upcoming free agency market is pretty loaded with capable WR guys. Not star players but players that can be instantly impactful.

Hopefully we can address EDGE in the draft.

The FA WR class doesn’t move me at all. Pierce is going to get paid. He’d be a nice get but not for what I assume he’ll fetch

For me it’s neck and neck. We have a non existent pass rush but we also have 0 pass catchers worth a damn outside of TMac and that includes the tight ends on this roster 

They’ll definitely have to draft either an edge or WR then sign/trade for the other 

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3 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

I’m all for bringing a QB in but who? The FA list is ass. The draft class isn’t great

I’d take a flier on Trey Lance and if available in 4th someone like Leavitt or Mateer?

I never wanted Dalton back especially at the contract Dan gave him. He’s utterly useless on the field and his cap hit isn’t nothing. He provides nothing. 

There’s a lot of bad QB play this year and passing is down. Guys worth trading for are most likely not going to get traded. 

As much as many of you don’t want to hear it our best option is to decline the 5th year option. Give Bryce 2026 while we have him under contract. Then in 2027 either sign Bryce (tag would be an option. Don’t repeat the Darnold mistake) or draft another QB and do it all again

I was sounding the alarm about Dalton earlier in the year when we signed him to an extension. He was horrendous against the Bears and the Commanders and was clearly done. Damn shame folks who were paid to see that couldn't or wouldn't for reasons.

Anywho I agree the upcoming options for QB are not "ideal" but that's the hand we're dealt so we need to evaluate the options and choose the best ones that have the best upside. As far as the draft people have been saying "next year's QB class" for what seems like a long time now. You could be right you could be wrong. We just don't know. That should not however preclude us from shooting our shot. Identify the guy with the necessary measurables and arm talent that checks the most boxes select him and see what happens. That's all we can do.

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    • Sometimes its fun to read the threads/posts.  The panthers could literally hire a groundskeeper and we'd have a thread "improving the field for no other reason to prop up Bryce Young".  Apparently no move is ever done to actually make the team better.  All a conspiracy to just focus on Bryce Young. Or suddenly daydreaming and reminiscing about Sam Darnold when he was hated more than Bryce Young.  Its really fun to do a message board search about Darnold during that time period.   Or thinking there is just a tree that grows QB, and you can just easily go up and pluck one.   
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