Bryce Slinging Dots Downfield

[CRA]

28 minutes ago, Car123 said:

In theory, yes, NFL qbs are supposed to make them. In reality, not many would complete it, let alone attempt that pass.

this is Bryce fan fiction.  Caleb Williams is out there completing passes few could attempt.  

Bryce Young was literally put in a chuck it downfield short yardage play scenario w/ man coverage.  Canales crafted it.  We have seen it multiple times this season.  It's not some Bryce Young decision or special throw.  It's a downfield lob vs man.  He for the first time all season finally got one to drop of the vertical one to Coker.  But it's not new.  

[pantherclaw]

I hate the fact I have to define my stance every week on the huddle. I shouldn't have to. 

If you been reading throughout the season, which isn't difficult,  I haven't been posting much.  .... if you're keep up, you know inam far from happy with Bryce.  He definitely saddens me. If I am honest, every QB we ever have has done so.  Byrce Definitely hasn't lived up to what I expected from him when we drafted him.  What I expect from him as a starter for our team. 

Now that I have clarified that, again,  it's fuging stupid how many people will absolutely talk down performances by Bryce, that  professionals,  rave about.   

 

[Car123]

13 minutes ago, CRA said:

this is Bryce fan fiction.  Caleb Williams is out there completing passes few could attempt.  

Bryce Young was literally put in a chuck it downfield short yardage play scenario w/ man coverage.  Canales crafted it.  We have seen it multiple times this season.  It's not some Bryce Young decision or special throw.  It's a downfield lob vs man.  He for the first time all season finally got one to drop of the vertical one to Coker.  But it's not new.  

Again, TMAC was the 4th read.

[Mage]

BRYCE IS CLUTCH

JUST ADMIT IT BOYS

[amcoolio]

Both Coker and Tet TDs weren't sideline throws. Same with the Tet TD last week. BY is horrible at sidelines throws, but not bad in the middle of the field deep. I wonder if Canales finally realizes this and gets BY to throw aggressively in the middle of the field.

[mrBdawg]

19 minutes ago, CRA said:

this is Bryce fan fiction.  Caleb Williams is out there completing passes few could attempt.  

Bryce Young was literally put in a chuck it downfield short yardage play scenario w/ man coverage.  Canales crafted it.  We have seen it multiple times this season.  It's not some Bryce Young decision or special throw.  It's a downfield lob vs man.  He for the first time all season finally got one to drop of the vertical one to Coker.  But it's not new.  

Uhhh hello first time all season finally gets one to drop? How about Legette against the falcons? McMillan just this past Monday? That’s 4 deep/vertical shots for touchdowns in the last 3 games lol what are u talking about 

[mrBdawg]

24 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

I hate the fact I have to define my stance every week on the huddle. I shouldn't have to. 

If you been reading throughout the season, which isn't difficult,  I haven't been posting much.  .... if you're keep up, you know inam far from happy with Bryce.  He definitely saddens me. If I am honest, every QB we ever have has done so.  Byrce Definitely hasn't lived up to what I expected from him when we drafted him.  What I expect from him as a starter for our team. 

Now that I have clarified that, again,  it's fuging stupid how many people will absolutely talk down performances by Bryce, that  professionals,  rave about.   

 

Nuance is not allowed in the Bryce discussion. You pick a side. Everything must be black and white.

If you are true anti Brycer you must never concede Bryce made a good throw. If he throws a dot you must call it a duck and say you saw it flutter. If he has a good week, or is improving in weak areas, it’s because we played the falcons or the running game carried him. Any good deep throw is pure dumb luck and happened to fall in the receivers hands.

[CPantherKing]

7 hours ago, Car123 said:

TMAC was the 4th read on that TD. Do you haters even watch the games?

4th read? On a playaction? Do you not watch the ALL 22?

There were 4 receivers on that play. Only 2 went beyond 2 yards on a 10 yard crossing route in front of a single high safety. The TE stayed in to block before releasing on a drag route and was never a read. Coker was motioned to the right to pull a defender to the sideline. This was a clear flat route and hot if the defender came on a blitz. The RB stayed in to block on the right side.

Coming out of the playaction Bryce spots the defender for a possible blitz and then goes to his primary receiver on his left. The only receiver on the left coming out of the playaction was TMac. He clearly follows TMac to the cross in front of the safety and looks off the safety to the left. This is not a read to XL. It's looking off the safety. He swings his vision back to his primary in TMac and throws the ball to the numbers (20) 10 yards over the head of the DB when TMac reaches the right hashes near the 30 yard line before TMac even makes a cut.

Bryce was never leading or throwing to the receiver. He was throwing to a spot based on the movement of 2 defenders. It was up to TMac to make this play happen with perfect timing, release, sell and cut on his route. Give credit to the play design. The defense is playing that route as a sideline route and TMac makes it happen with his body position and control as he cuts/drifts 10 yards up field to the spot he knew it was going to before the play.

If that were a 4th progression read out of a playaction, you'd see 4 hitch steps and the receiver would have been led to the sideline as TMac would have never known the ball was going to be thrown 10 yards over the DBs head on a 10 yard cross to the sideline.

You can also tell this is the desgin as Bryce sets to the left out of the playaction with XL on his right before the cross. Then he takes 3 bounce steps to move with the pocket as XL is late to the cross. His first hitch step is to the right after TMac crosses, which is followed by an immediate throw before a cut is made by TMac. TMac was the only receiver to the left on Bryce's set, and he was one of 2 WRs to the right on Bryce's first and only hitch step.

Give TMac and the play design a bulk of the credit. Bryce did well, but he didn't sell the playaction or a possible pass to XL very well. He did do very well at throwing to a predetermined spot on the field after TMac set up that crossing route perfectly with XL and Sanders both late on developing their routes.

Did you catch all that on the play? For some reason, you think there were 4 progressions out of play action with the defense pressing, Bryce setting his hips to the left with all 3 receivers on the right side of what you think was his 4th option as the only receiver on the left at the snap, and only 1 hitch step to the right after TMac waits for XL to cross left. Why would you think a QB would set their hips to the left when their first 3 progressions are on the right side of the field?