Joe Person: Ickey is expected to be extended, Mays is someone we want to keep long term, TE, LB and OLB are our biggest needs heading into the offseason

[PleaseCutStewart]

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

holy fug that would be 5 guys on the line with deals.  Not one on a rookie wage.  Is that sustainable, I guess we shall see.

Likely unsustainable. Granted - half of our defense + all of our wideouts are making little money, so it makes it easier to extend Icky now. By the time we need to extend our current rookies/2nd years, most of our oline's contracts will be done or will be on their last year (should be a good cap savings cut if need be).

I think they were smart with the 2 year extension to Moton - I doubt they keep him afterwards unless it's on the cheap. That gives us a chance to draft a lineman and develop them if we want.

[PleaseCutStewart]

1 hour ago, Puresteel55 said:

Kenyon Sadiq please

No thanks. Way too many studs on D this year to take an Oregon TE in the 1st...

[Mr. Scot]

14 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

Likely unsustainable. Granted - half of our defense + all of our wideouts are making little money, so it makes it easier to extend Icky now. By the time we need to extend our current rookies/2nd years, most of our oline's contracts will be done or will be on their last year (should be a good cap savings cut if need be).

I think they were smart with the 2 year extension to Moton - I doubt they keep him afterwards unless it's on the cheap. That gives us a chance to draft a lineman and develop them if we want.

I think the idea would be to build that dominant line now but at the same time work on backfilling (most likely via the draft) with guys you believe can be future starters.

[SmokinwithWilly]

38 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, if he was able to be healthy eventually, yes. Possible that we end up signing him at some point during the season when he finally gets healthy again.

I don't know if you are aware but he did rupture his Achilles tendon in late Oct. It is unlikely he will be healthy for the entire 2026 offseason and very likely that he misses some or all of the 2026 season.

I'm aware. That's why I said it will all depend on how he recovers. I could see him getting signed then going onto long term IR, risk v reward, but at a very low cost or he could just sit available as a FA. Hate it for him because he is a really good backup to have but Achilles injuries seem like the quick way to retirement in the NFL.

[SmokinwithWilly]

33 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

If Dan Morgan rolls into 26 with the same qb room then that tells me he is a certified moron or tepper is still running the show. 

 

This isnt hard.   Cut Dalton.  Sign a vet.   Draft a guy.    Its literally that simple 

Exactly what we should have done last year. Except never sign Dalton to begin with. 

[kungfoodude]

29 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I'm aware. That's why I said it will all depend on how he recovers. I could see him getting signed then going onto long term IR, risk v reward, but at a very low cost or he could just sit available as a FA. Hate it for him because he is a really good backup to have but Achilles injuries seem like the quick way to retirement in the NFL.

I mean....why would someone sign a player to a contract that can't pass a physical? That would nullify the contract.

[SmokinwithWilly]

18 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean....why would someone sign a player to a contract that can't pass a physical? That would nullify the contract.

Would depend on whether or not they thought he would recover, contract size, if he had any other suitors, and what, if any value he could bring by recovery time. I wouldn't see it being a likely approach, but for the right price, maybe a shot. And by right price I mean cheap. If BC doesn't think he's gonna get any other offers after his recovery, maybe he'd take a 2 year, vet min deal. Some pretty terrible tackles get offers every year with guarantees and get cut. If you have the cap space to gamble, it could be a cheap cost, moderate reward. A lot of things would have to be in play to do something like that and language can be written into any deal. But hell, we drafted a RB in the 2nd round that couldn't pass a physical. Stranger things have happened. 

[45catfan]

4 hours ago, Moonraker said:

We draft a lot of TE's

We throw mud at the wall for TEs and what has that gotten us?  At least we finally gave up on the Ian Thomas experiment.  I've been asking for a first or second round TE since the 2018 draft.  

[kungfoodude]

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

Would depend on whether or not they thought he would recover, contract size, if he had any other suitors, and what, if any value he could bring by recovery time. I wouldn't see it being a likely approach, but for the right price, maybe a shot. And by right price I mean cheap. If BC doesn't think he's gonna get any other offers after his recovery, maybe he'd take a 2 year, vet min deal. Some pretty terrible tackles get offers every year with guarantees and get cut. If you have the cap space to gamble, it could be a cheap cost, moderate reward. A lot of things would have to be in play to do something like that and language can be written into any deal. But hell, we drafted a RB in the 2nd round that couldn't pass a physical. Stranger things have happened. 

No, I mean you literally have to pass a physical. There is no sense in signing him until he is healthy.

Otherwise you are literally paying a guy that is likely to never play a game that season. 

That happens to players under previous contract, not unsigned/free agent players.

Look at the Lions and their recent attempt to bring Frank Ragnow back. He couldn't pass the physical. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

No, I mean you literally have to pass a physical. There is no sense in signing him until he is healthy.

Otherwise you are literally paying a guy that is likely to never play a game that season. 

That happens to players under previous contract, not unsigned/free agent players.

Look at the Lions and their recent attempt to bring Frank Ragnow back. He couldn't pass the physical. 

From what I had read, and I could be mistaken in my understanding of reading the language, it could be done, although very rarely, with very specific language written into the contract. The passing of a physical was to determine any unknowns. The Achilles tear would be a known commodity going in, so the physical wouldn't apply to that aspect at least, from what I read. This was the very least likely of scenarios, but from what I understood, wasn't totally out of the realm of possibility. 

[LinvilleGorge]

4 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

Free Saftey.

FREE Safety.

FREE SAFETY!!!

I've given up on this team ever having a true FS.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

holy fug that would be 5 guys on the line with deals.  Not one on a rookie wage.  Is that sustainable, I guess we shall see.

When you have a QB who cannot throw the ball unless the pocket is perfect that's what you have to do. I don't think a lot of fans grasp how fuged we would be with Bryce on a franchise QB deal. You can't put the pieces in front of and around Bryce that ge has to have to succeed if you're paying him $50M+ a year. Hell, we struggle to do it with him on a rookie contract and it's forced us to duct tale a defensive roster together. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

When you have a QB who cannot throw the ball unless the pocket is perfect that's what you have to do. I don't think a lot of fans grasp how fuged we would be with Bryce on a franchise QB deal. You can't put the pieces in front of and around Bryce that ge has to have to succeed if you're paying him $50M+ a year. Hell, we struggle to do it with him on a rookie contract and it's forced us to duct tale a defensive roster together. 

Cap is roughly 280m per season right now. After Icky's extension (26m AAV), Mayes (6m), and keeping the rest of the oline, Chuba, Tmac and XL, if we signed Bryce to his 50m extension this offseason, we'd be at roughly 160 of our 280 without anyone else on offense. Brown and Horn take up 47m by themselves. 10 players of our 53 would eat up 75% of our cap in 26. We'd be crippled. 

Edited 9 minutes ago by SmokinwithWilly

[NCBlu]

4 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

TJ hasn't been the same since he got the stinger. Hrs playing timid.

All off-season they keep saying he lost weight like that was a good thing for a TE. He look more like a bigger slower WR this season.

Guess he's playing more the split out role and the other 2 play real TE