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Smitty on TMac


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9 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

 

He just needs to work on his execution and catching. Being stronger at the point of attack.

Getting off press coverage will be a big one moving forward 

I’m hoping to see him add some muscle this offseason to help with that

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15 hours ago, Admiral Ackbar said:

Serious question, what's his ceiling look like? He doesnt have the top end speed, he still needs to work on snagging catches, I dont think his athleticism is top 1%. He is however football smart, good a route running and can make contested catches at times. 

Is this his peak? How much more can he improve? Serious questions, not knocking him at all.

Mike Evans. I know that feels like the easy choice but it really is. Like 10 seasons straight of 1000 yard seasons ceiling. 

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14 hours ago, OneBadCat said:

I think Mike Evans is a good comparison production wise. Also Bryce is particularly good with touch throws which might help his #s as well. 
 

Steve Smith is a top 10 WR all time. That won’t be eclipsed for a long time. DJ Moore is a great #1 WR as well but Steve Smith never got the chance to play with a QB that can extend plays in his prime. He also was historically under targeted by the running offense he played in. 

I think everyone says Mike Evans because of size, but really they have different strengths and play styles.  Tmac is better on intermediate routes and not nearly as good at contested catches. 

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17 hours ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

I don’t see him being better than Moose. But I’d take top 5. 

He's easily going to be better than moose. His rookie #s in catches yards and tds are going to be close to Mooses first three seasons COMBINED. Moose only had 3 1000 yard seasons....  and one with double digit TDs... (a year jake force fed him the ball) 

 

 

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16 hours ago, Admiral Ackbar said:

Serious question, what's his ceiling look like? He doesnt have the top end speed, he still needs to work on snagging catches, I dont think his athleticism is top 1%. He is however football smart, good a route running and can make contested catches at times. 

Is this his peak? How much more can he improve? Serious questions, not knocking him at all.

Dude has the about the same speed as a rookie Mike Evans, at his size you don't have to be a burner, he's deff not slow and his game speed is faster than his 4.5 40 time.

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15 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Well, there are a pretty big chunk of big framed WR's that aren't speedsters that are also excellent route runners. Hopkins, Fitz etc.

He just needs to work on his execution and catching. Being stronger at the point of attack.

If he improves even 10-20% he will be in the discussion for best we have ever had.

It's up to him how good he wants to be.

People should really drop the hes slow narrative, most 6'5 WRs arent burners...  and 40 times are over rated anyways as game speed is far more important....

 

You would think he was Kelvin Benjamin the way people keep bringing up speed lol.

 

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15 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Well, there are a pretty big chunk of big framed WR's that aren't speedsters that are also excellent route runners. Hopkins, Fitz etc.

He just needs to work on his execution and catching. Being stronger at the point of attack.

If he improves even 10-20% he will be in the discussion for best we have ever had.

It's up to him how good he wants to be.

People should really drop the hes slow narrative, most 6'5 WRs arent burners...  and 40 times are over rated anyways as game speed is far more important....

 

You would think he was Kelvin Benjamin the way people keep bringing up speed lol.

 

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1 hour ago, PantherChris said:

People should really drop the hes slow narrative, most 6'5 WRs arent burners...  and 40 times are over rated anyways as game speed is far more important....

 

You would think he was Kelvin Benjamin the way people keep bringing up speed lol.

 

Saying hes not a speedster is not saying he's slow. 

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1 hour ago, PantherChris said:

People should really drop the hes slow narrative, most 6'5 WRs arent burners...  and 40 times are over rated anyways as game speed is far more important....

 

You would think he was Kelvin Benjamin the way people keep bringing up speed lol.

 

Benjamin and TMac were roughly similar speeds. Benjamin was a 4.61 at the NFL Combine and TMac was about a 4.5-4.6 on most scouts watches at his pro day. 

Having elite speed is great but having elite playing ability is better.

Where are all the Matthew Golden fanbois at? How is that working out?

People get wrapped up in the video game guys like Megatron, Randy Moss, DK Metcalf, etc. That's extremely abnormal.

Hopkins, Fitz, etc....those guys weren't elite speedsters. I guess that's why they didn't pan ou....oh...right.

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