to all the Low-T Betas crying about "do we want to win" / "we'll get embarrassed the next week"

[Mage]

3 hours ago, LegioX said:

Yes the Panthers are my favorite team. Been following them since the Clemson football field days. I’m just fed up with this “inconsistency” day in and day out. Are we going to suck or are we going to be contenders? We all know they are not ready for prime time games. Look at this season. We all know Bryce is not the guy to lead us deep into a playoff run, since he folds like a wet noodle when under pressure. We have good rookies on or team that are going to be wasted with this inconsistency.

Acknowledging that we aren't a good team vs actively rooting for them to get destroyed and not make the playoffs are two entirely different things.

Yes, Panthers aren't good.  Yes, we likely won't go far in the playoffs.  But why would you rather see your favorite team not even have the opportunity?  Who is to say we have another chance at making the playoffs for the next 10 years?  Jets haven't made the playoffs since 2010! Think about that.  

All of you keep focusing on unknowns and whatnot.  Here is the biggest unknown: we don't know when we will have another chance.  It could be 2035.  It could be 2040.  Let that sink in for a moment.

Yet, instead of wanting to capitalize on the opportunity, you want to see the team get beat down.  And for what?  Because MAYBE we move on from Bryce Young?  And what will you do if that doesn't happen anyway?  What would we have gained from missing the playoffs then?

And look, I'm not trying to sound holier-than-thou.  Not trying to demean you as a fan or anything like that.  But just try to enjoy the moment because it could be a long time, as sad it sounds, before we are in this position again.  You just don't know.  And if you don't believe me, go find a Jets fan.  Go find a Browns fan.  Go find a Lions fan from the mid 90s-2010s.  Go find a Dolphins fan. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Mage

[mrcompletely11]

6 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Getting to the playoffs would be cool. I was worried that the FO would see it as Bryce being successful but if the recent Canales conference is any indication the FO and coaching staff are seeing the same things we are seeing. 
So I am just enjoying the ride. Hoping it is busily if to a better year next season, with another QB starting hopefully. 

Thats 1000% how the team and media would sell it

[kungfoodude]

41 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Getting to the playoffs would be cool. I was worried that the FO would see it as Bryce being successful but if the recent Canales conference is any indication the FO and coaching staff are seeing the same things we are seeing. 
So I am just enjoying the ride. Hoping it is busily if to a better year next season, with another QB starting hopefully. 

I don't think that is a valid worry.

IMO, they have been sold on him almost the entire season and that isn't going to change, win or lose.

It's just a matter of time. Hopefully they figure it out by the time a contract extension comes up and don't saddle us with a deathstroke for this revision of the franchise. 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

Agree.

 Many players on this team work their asses off everyday to get to this point and fans have waited for years for an inkling of success. To pull for a loss at this point (as a fan) makes no sense to me. The Tanking argument (which I don’t get either) is closer to rational than this mindset IMO. 

I agree. I am long over the draft position thing. Good front offices are good at evaluations. They can get players. Bad teams consistently draft in the top 10 because they fail at evaluations often.

There is no rational argument to root against your own team in this scenario.

[LegioX]

40 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I agree. I am long over the draft position thing. Good front offices are good at evaluations. They can get players. Bad teams consistently draft in the top 10 because they fail at evaluations often.

There is no rational argument to root against your own team in this scenario.

The thought of having a QB for the foreseeable future that is not progressing after 4 years and regularly plays games where he is going into the 4th with less than 100 yards total and can’t throw a deep pass to save his life seems pathetic for this team

this team is playing its ass off but we are handicapped by a QB that cannot play the position. 

Edited 22 minutes ago by LegioX

[kungfoodude]

13 minutes ago, LegioX said:

The thought of having a QB for the foreseeable future that is not progressing after 4 years and regularly plays games where he is going into the 4th with less than 100 yards total and can’t throw a deep pass to save his life seems pathetic for this team

this team is playing its ass off but we are handicapped by a QB that cannot play the position. 

And that is another extension of the evaluation problem that plagues this franchise. All that fault lies with the Tepper-Morgan-Canales "braintrust."

You will get the final word on those three when you see what they decide to do at QB this offseason. If we stand pat, it's safe to say that Tepper hasn't changed, Dan is just an extension of Fitterer and at the very best, Canales is a yes man.

The story has largely been written. It's just about what chapter they all choose to accept the ending.