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Waldo Grand Master

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3 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Too small. I don't want another QB under 6'3

6'1" isn't a deal breaker, especially for a latter pick.

At this point a backup level QB that can see the field would be a huge improvement, 6'1" can see a lit more than 5'9"+. Add in any physical traits above poor level and it's all.imprivement in the right direction IMO.

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Just now, Waldo said:

6'1" isn't a deal breaker, especially for a latter pick.

At this point a backup level QB that can see the field would be a huge improvement, 6'1" can see a lit more than 5'9"+. Add in any physical traits above poor level and it's all.imprivement in the right direction IMO.

The height poo is dramatically overplayed. Just get someone with elite arm talent and other elite skillsets. There are plenty of elite 6 foot or under NFL QB's historically.

I mean this board is simping left, right and center for backup NFL players like Willis and Howell and both of them are barely 6 feet.

Just get players with elite NFL QB traits and abilities.

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, who wants Lamar Jackson? Midget.

I’m pretty sure he isn’t referring to outliers. Lamar is the most athletic QB in history, Top 1% athleticism. I get his point, about the ideal QB being 6’3 or taller. 

Kind of funny how billion dollar QB needy organizations refuse to look at QB’s they just don’t like. Org’s rather flounder than be flexible.

Lamar, Shedur….etc 

Both QB’s we could make the argument we could have had.  Shedur would have been a distraction to finally see if Bryce was worth the draft spot (and Bryce emphatically isn’t) but we would have a low capital investment for 2026. Allowing us to invest resources in the defense (Sonny Styles etc..) 

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6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The height poo is dramatically overplayed. Just get someone with elite arm talent and other elite skillsets. There are plenty of elite 6 foot or under NFL QB's historically.

I mean this board is simping left, right and center for backup NFL players like Willis and Howell and both of them are barely 6 feet.

Just get players with elite NFL QB traits and abilities.

I am not at all up for under 6' myself. That list is small and unimpressive, I really can't think of anyone but Wilson in that category recently I would call good that I can think of. Murray could have made it work but he is incredibly dense IMO. That's just bad odds. Over 6'? Shouldn't be an issue by itself. 

100% on the second part. That's what matters first and would dictate an exception. 

 

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12 minutes ago, Beast_3000 said:

I’m pretty sure he isn’t referring to outliers. Lamar is the most athletic QB in history, Top 1% athleticism. I get his point, about the ideal QB being 6’3 or taller. 

Kind of funny how billion dollar QB needy organizations refuse to look at QB’s they just don’t like. Org’s rather flounder than be flexible.

Lamar, Shedur….etc 

Both QB’s we could make the argument we could have had.  Shedur would have been a distraction to finally see if Bryce was worth the draft spot (and Bryce emphatically isn’t) but we would have a low capital investment for 2026. Allowing us to invest resources in the defense (Sonny Styles etc..) 

Mahomes, Rodgers, Purdy, Baker, Caleb Williams etc are all under 6'3".  I'm not sure it's even outliers at this point. 

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      By kungfoodude · Posted

      I mean, Brees was a sub 6' guy too(although they listed him as 6 foot). It is not a worry if you are an elite player. Even Flutie Flakes was able to succeed at the NFL level at his height. All QB's still need throwing lanes and different QB's play the game in a way that maximizes their abilities so they can be successful. All these sub-6 QB's we are talking about have had more NFL success that easily 80+% of 6-3 or better NFL QB's. That's why I keep beating this horse. It isn't about measurables, it's about abilities. That extends well beyond the QB position. Xavier Legette has elite abilities and measurables. Yet a slight little midget with no where near the athleticism is an infinitely better WR(McConkey). Jonathan Mingo is way more athletic than Puka Nacua. How is that working out? Never hyperfocus on measurables. It's a small part of a much bigger picture.   
    • Waldo
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      By Waldo · Posted

      His legs looked limited in school to me. Good enough at that level but it never looked NFL level. All the guys you mentioned made Bryce look slow and limited. What propped him up was other non-NFL level guys on the field.  Absolutely on the 2nd part. That's becaude when he bails he doesn't have to ability to make it work more often. Lots of times this year and past teams let him scramble because they obviously didn't see it as a serious threat. Hell Payton was allowed to run because he was so slow and took off so infrequently. Bryce isn't that bad but he is closer to that than to Murray. 
    • Tr3ach
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      By Tr3ach · Posted

      This.  Its not tennessee bad, but the Ole Miss offense is a very hard one to correlate to nfl.
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