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Bryce Young is the worst QB in Panthers History


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20 hours ago, frankw said:

Jamarcus got 25 starts

Christian Ponder got 36 starts

Jake Locker got 23 starts

And at no point toward the end of those starts were any fans praising them for doing very basic things 31 other starting QB's are supposed to be capable of.

44 is much bigger than those numbers, and most of us aren't praising Bryce for doing very basic things either.  Difference is he already has way more starts, and seemingly way more on the horizon.  It's not clear to me what point you're trying to make

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22 hours ago, Car123 said:

They didn’t show progress…

Surrounding cast have anything to do with that?  We have given Bryce Young one of the top offensive lines and receiving corps in the league and his "progress" as a passer, if that were even measurable, would be in the single digits.  Not noteworthy.

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1 minute ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

44 is much bigger than those numbers, and most of us aren't praising Bryce for doing very basic things either.  Difference is he already has way more starts, and seemingly way more on the horizon.  It's not clear to me what point you're trying to make

I think his point is, Bryce has a comical long leash/opportunity given what he has shown in the NFL.  And when you look elsewhere, most other QBs that operated in a similar neighborhood had the audition ended by now.    Bryce's opportunity and chances have been greater than the norm (especially, when you zero in on the present day NFL and stay out of prior eras)

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3 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

44 is much bigger than those numbers, and most of us aren't praising Bryce for doing very basic things either.  Difference is he already has way more starts, and seemingly way more on the horizon.  It's not clear to me what point you're trying to make

You're not clear on the basic point that he is now a 4 year starter and we need to stop treating him like he's still a rookie?

Cool won't quote you any further enjoy your day.

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14 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

44 is much bigger than those numbers, and most of us aren't praising Bryce for doing very basic things either. 

thats a lie 

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18 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Surrounding cast have anything to do with that?  We have given Bryce Young one of the top offensive lines and receiving corps in the league and his "progress" as a passer, if that were even measurable, would be in the single digits.  Not noteworthy.

Now he has a roty receiver

same sad qb

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25 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Now he has a roty receiver

same sad qb

also, draft position doesn't mean anything once you make it to the NFL.  Jalen Coker is legit.   Now, he might not of been healthy every game but as of right now.....there is really zero reason this offense is bottom of the league.  We got the OL.  We got the RBs and we got the WRs to be a pretty decent offense.  We just need someone putting the ball where it needs to be. 

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7 hours ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Surrounding cast have anything to do with that?  We have given Bryce Young one of the top offensive lines and receiving corps in the league and his "progress" as a passer, if that were even measurable, would be in the single digits.  Not noteworthy.

Our receiving corps is not one of the best in the league. Is this a joke?  Offensive line is overrated. No one can stay healthy and they haven’t been good at run blocking for several weeks.

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9 hours ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

44 is much bigger than those numbers, and most of us aren't praising Bryce for doing very basic things either.  Difference is he already has way more starts, and seemingly way more on the horizon.  It's not clear to me what point you're trying to make

That was a list given of worse QBs who supposedly had longer leashes than Bryce has had. Obviously Bryce has had the much longer leash. 

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8 hours ago, CRA said:

also, draft position doesn't mean anything once you make it to the NFL.  Jalen Coker is legit.   Now, he might not of been healthy every game but as of right now.....there is really zero reason this offense is bottom of the league.  We got the OL.  We got the RBs and we got the WRs to be a pretty decent offense.  We just need someone putting the ball where it needs to be. 

Good QBs elevate every day receivers. Happens all the time. 

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