Shoutout to BIG MONEY Tepper and Dan Morgan and Matt Rhule

[TheBigKat]

Rhule was right all along, 7 years for Jay-Z and 7 years since we made the playoffs 

so Rhule was right all along

 

kidding aside Tepper came into this organization HOT thinking he’s smarter than every other billionaire in the league and that we needed all these stats, data, hiring fads like Rhule, pissing off local and state government

 

 over the past two seasons, he’s taken the back seat and doing billionaire stuff like counting his money but the reality is he’s hired football guys like Morgan who brought in more football guys like Brandt Tilliis. 
 

the jury is still out on Canales evolving as a coach and if BY9 is ‘the guy’ but we’ve got deep pocketed ownership and the football braintrust to push this team finally forward

 

[Jackson113.2]

We have the same record as the Falcons and they fired their coach. So, I guess that's something.  

[Tr3ach]

53 minutes ago, Jackson113.2 said:

We have the same record as the Falcons and they fired their coach. So, I guess that's something.  

If you dont realize that the Falcons have a way more talented roster than we do and also no first rounder this draft then I dont know what to tell you.

[PNW_PantherMan]

[45catfan]

1 hour ago, Jackson113.2 said:

We have the same record as the Falcons and they fired their coach. So, I guess that's something.  

Oooooo...that one stung.

Also, fug Tepper.  He's only ruined this franchise, so backdooring into the playoffs simply because the rest our division is a heaping pile of steaming dung, is zero reason to give that man an iota of credit.

Canales is mid AF.

Morgan is getting better at his job after a questionable start, but I wouldn't cement him in his position for the long term.

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

Well, he did get the 7 years part right

[TD alt]

3 hours ago, Jackson113.2 said:

We have the same record as the Falcons and they fired their coach. So, I guess that's something.  

Different situation and context. To be clear, in general the Falcons were expected to compete for the division, and, to put it bluntly, we were not. The Falcons roster was generally thought to be ready to compete for a deep run when he took Raheem Morris took the job. Moreover, Morris and GM Terry Fontenot made the decision to take Penix Jr., notwithstanding all that money Kirk Cousins was paid, and the decision backfired big time. 

2 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Oooooo...that one stung.

Also, fug Tepper.  He's only ruined this franchise, so backdooring into the playoffs simply because the rest our division is a heaping pile of steaming dung, is zero reason to give that man an iota of credit.

Canales is mid AF.

Morgan is getting better at his job after a questionable start, but I wouldn't cement him in his position for the long term.

The comment was a one-liner that doesn't pass muster when analyzing the two situations.

As for David Tepper, I would think that it's pretty obvious that he has taken a backseat since Dan Morgan has been a GM. For those that don't want to give him credit for adjusting his modus operandi, I guess you'll continue to berate him into perpetuity because it's easy and "fun," I guess. 

Admittedly,  has made what turned out to be boneheaded decisions in retrospect based upon what I'll refer to as "billionaire bravado," pre-Morgan, but it is what it is. Tepper was a bit of a control freak, and probably still is (they probably all are), but at least now he is letting football guys run the show. Now I'm not one that says the owner should never get involved, especially when things are going badly, but that should largely be to swing the axe, and signing off on major changes. Tepper wants to win, and he's trying to make it happen, and I can appreciate the improvement. 

As for Morgan, and by extension Canales, we'll see. They're still relatively new at their positions (as is Tepper, relatively). They aren't going to be perfect, and are still figuring things out. I think that the improvement from the 2024 draft to the 2025 draft is stark, but you have to realize that the prior draft was hamstrung due to the residual effects of the king's ramson for Bryce Young, and it was this admin's first draft. And, of course, it must never be forgotten that they came into the situation hamstrung by Bryce Young, who was not their choice (especially DC's), and is a ways away from the prototypical franchise QB. In light of all that, I would be surprised if either is fired after the season. 

Although I am skeptical and critical of Canales, and don't necessarily think that he has made improvements coaching---situational play calling in particulatlr---I still can't fully say he can't coach as long as he has Bryce as a QB. In one sense, I can say that it's amazing that he has improved in spite of Bryce's shortcomings, but in another sense I can say that we're not going to go anywhere fast, or anywhere at all, if this duo is allowed to go on, as Dave is coaching to Bryce's shortcomings (so to speak), because that's all that he can do if the team has any opportunity to eek out some wins. 

In other words, I still don't know how this is going to go, but I do pretty much know that we improved, if only incrementally, and that Tepper's change is obvious, Dan's change from year one to year two is a little less obvious, though still stark, Canales may or may not have improved as he's tied down, and Bryce hasn't really improved at all. Admittedly, I don't think Bryce is the long term answer, so my opinion of him may be highly subjective, but I just don't see it. We don't know what the fug we're going to get week to week, and I see the same mistakes though Canales may be trying to mitigate them. 

 

 

[Bear Hands]

For me, it seemed bringing in Tillis to help guide the process was one of the biggest factors in avoiding our typical draft and FA blunders.  Still dealt with coaching and personnel issues, but I think Brandt is a huge factor.  It's another Beane situation.  

[TD alt]

8 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

For me, it seemed bringing in Tillis to help guide the process was one of the biggest factors in avoiding our typical draft and FA blunders.  Still dealt with coaching and personnel issues, but I think Brandt is a huge factor.  It's another Beane situation.  

So the PFF angle is turning out to look pretty damned good.

[jtm]

Morgan and Tillis have the Panthers trending in the right direction and it is nice to have hope.  I'm still not sold on Canales and definitely not on Tepper.    

[PNW_PantherMan]

24 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

For me, it seemed bringing in Tillis to help guide the process was one of the biggest factors in avoiding our typical draft and FA blunders.  Still dealt with coaching and personnel issues, but I think Brandt is a huge factor.  It's another Beane situation.  

Hope you're right.  This off-season will help to confirm that.

[strato]

I am hopeful this is the part of the show where Dan and Dave prove themselves worthy and capable of taking complete charge of the roster/team construction.
And that being recognized, they will have the power to jettison this little albatross QB. And will do so.  
 

 

[45catfan]

25 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Different situation and context. To be clear, in general the Falcons were expected to compete for the division, and, to put it bluntly, we were not. The Falcons roster was generally thought to be ready to compete for a deep run when he took Raheem Morris took the job. Moreover, Morris and GM Terry Fontenot made the decision to take Penix Jr., notwithstanding all that money Kirk Cousins was paid, and the decision backfired big time. 

Trading up to take the #1 pick that hadn't delivered a winning season yet wasn't a huge blunder? All this playoff spot is to me is simply to get off the playoff drought list. 

We very well may be in the same spot as the Falcons are now next year, actually fairly likely.  There should be very few, if any, excuses not to eclipse this season.  I simply don't see it happening.

[Bear Hands]

10 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Hope you're right.  This off-season will help to confirm that.

Yeah it’s only my outside view. He seems very attune to finding the right guys and fits.