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Your OFFICIAL NFC Wild Card Playoffs Thread LA Rams @Carolina Panthers


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12 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Three time outs you need 30 yards to attempt a make able fg.... nothing over the middle short which was wide open thats not on Bryce and ive been a hater all year

I went back to check and I saw what Greg Olsen saw. Bryce had open receivers in the middle of the field on quick throws on all 4 plays against a prevent. There was huge chunks of the field open. He even had the 2 receivers open that he missed badly on late throws. All 22 will tell more. He should have had that ball out of his hands under 2 seconds with what the defense gave him

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Bryce will be a great backup but is limited. Definitely need to bring in a new vet and draft a mid late round QB. Let Canales decide who he likes. 
 

Evero needs to go. Want a more aggressive DC. I think we have the talent for an aggressive scheme. 
 

Simmons played great on special teams. Would love to see him strive as a hybrid S-Lb but could be our new Franklin. 
 

Looking forward to the off season upgrades. 

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2 minutes ago, dep said:

Overall a very mid season but a large improvement over the last few years. 

Kudos to Canales but Bryce has got to go. 

I am still out on Canales with his overall game planning, but I know he keeps bailing that offense out in close games when they are on the verge of imploding with just fundamental play calling and game management.

I do know Canales being shackled with Evero and Bryce continues to muddy the picture on Canales. Is he a good head coach? He's a good OC. He knows how to get receivers open as well as player development. I just can't get a clear picture with how bad Evero is and how inconsistent Bryce is. He is forcing that trust in those two and bailing them out in several games this season.

Evero and Bryce need to go. Will Tepper approve? Canales seems like he can win playoff games, but can he build a champion? We will never know until the team is turned over to him.

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33 minutes ago, Panthering said:

He literally got it done though. If you’re hating on him for tonight idk. 

I mean, yes he is not a franchise QB (yet?) and I would prefer to find someone with more upside - today he did more than we could have expected before the season. Which might not be very much, but I am fine with how the team did. Been punch for punch with a Superbowl favorite. The effort was there, the chance life until the end.

Who thought it could have been better? Delusional. The Panthers are not there yet. They might never be. Today was nice though and anybody who didn't enjoy it should go to a "seven day silence* retreat to reflect their life.

 

Love to the freakin us. You guys need it. Let's try not to fug one another over.

 

Holla to all my sane people.

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15 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

I went back to check and I saw what Greg Olsen saw. Bryce had open receivers in the middle of the field on quick throws on all 4 plays against a prevent. There was huge chunks of the field open. He even had the 2 receivers open that he missed badly on late throws. All 22 will tell more. He should have had that ball out of his hands under 2 seconds with what the defense gave him

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defense played very well considering it was the rams and the offense gave them tons of short fields.  the last td not even mad about that that was just an impressive catch

wr is looking really good not a huge need

qb byoung played really good and really bad this game still not sold on him the last series pretty much to me felt like the real byoung returninf...3 terrible decision passes and one drop by a wr.  panthers really need some real competition and best one win

overall team is looking up need a pass rush or more aggressive dcoord oline depth 1 journeyman upsixe qb and one draft pic qb and depending on how much shough progresses panthers have a shot at playpffs next year

stafford is good but to me looked like father time is catching up to him

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Proud of the whole team. They played their asses off and we damn near upset them again. No complaint with Bryce tonight. He made some kickass plays.

Coker was the best player from either team tonight. 

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50 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

I went back to check and I saw what Greg Olsen saw. Bryce had open receivers in the middle of the field on quick throws on all 4 plays against a prevent. There was huge chunks of the field open. He even had the 2 receivers open that he missed badly on late throws. All 22 will tell more. He should have had that ball out of his hands under 2 seconds with what the defense gave him

He shrunk in the moment. It is what it is.

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